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Old 08-28-2009, 10:10 AM
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Default Planning suspension upgrade what else should I look at replacing?

I will be doing the PSS10 upgrade to my car next month is there anything else that I "should" or "must" replace or re-do while doing the PSS10 install?
Old 08-28-2009, 10:20 AM
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Sway bars. If you don't have the funds for new ones than consider finding a set of Turbo sways and drilling the rear one for adjustability. And if you can't/won't get those, you might as well drill your stock ones while you are there so you can stiffer up the rear a little.
Old 08-28-2009, 11:01 AM
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A second set of locking collars for the rear shocks.
Old 08-28-2009, 11:13 AM
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Upgrade control arm bushings to the Chris Walrod bushings.
Old 08-28-2009, 11:22 AM
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What camber plates come with the PSS10 ?
Old 08-28-2009, 11:30 AM
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PSS10s use the OE camber plates
Old 08-28-2009, 11:42 AM
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Originally Posted by matt777
Upgrade control arm bushings to the Chris Walrod bushings.
+1. A no-brainer upgrade.
Old 08-28-2009, 11:45 AM
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Originally Posted by g_murray
A second set of locking collars for the rear shocks.

Not needed with the PSS10s, right?

Replace all the bolts in your suspension
Old 08-28-2009, 11:52 AM
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Originally Posted by bart1
Not needed with the PSS10s, right?

Replace all the bolts in your suspension
this can be hotly contested. It can't hurt to add another collar... however, with PSS10s you have much more flexibility to get the geometry right so it is not an issue.
The ride height is adjustable independent of the bar mount.

In my opinion, if it installed correctly, PSS10s don't require the collar.
Other reputable folks here may disagree.
Then again, it is pretty cheap insurance.

Case in point: The PSS9s on my turbo do not have an additional lock ring. They have been on there for over 10K miles...

I have had (no idea how many) cars on the lift with PSS9s or 10s with no extra collar.

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Old 08-28-2009, 11:54 AM
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9M 3.8 upgrade.
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well, 4 solid camber plates with a bigger front sway bar make a lot of change.

+1 on David's advice for drilling the bars, makes the trains stiffer for free !
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Originally Posted by Noah
9M 3.8 upgrade.
Old 08-28-2009, 01:33 PM
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I agree with Mark that a 3rd locking collar is not needed as long as they are installed properly...you have to beat the heck out of the drop link perch to tighten everything down but I know a few cars that are tracked that have not budged. But yes, cheap insurance

If Chris Walrod would hurry up with those rear bushings I would do those while your in there along with his front control arm bushings.

check your rear toe link rubber boot to see if it's torn (common issue) if so you will need to replace them with either a porsche replacement or I think ERP and Tarret make them.
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I think Mark is right; the PSS-10's don't actually need the extra locking collar (we have installed over a hundred of these without them) provided everything is installed correctly. That said, we do provide them with every suspension kit for the DIY'ers to ensure that nothing can move to prevent damaging the droplinks.

Without knowing how many miles are on your car, its difficult to offer specific suggestions, however I would replace the swaybar bushings if they feel hard or are cracked.
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Originally Posted by Steve Weiner-Rennsport Systems
I think Mark is right; the PSS-10's don't actually need the extra locking collar (we have installed over a hundred of these without them) provided everything is installed correctly. That said, we do provide them with every suspension kit for the DIY'ers to ensure that nothing can move to prevent damaging the droplinks.

Without knowing how many miles are on your car, its difficult to offer specific suggestions, however I would replace the swaybar bushings if they feel hard or are cracked.

Yes miles would help 65K every thing is still OEM


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