993 value Question
06-01-2009, 06:02 PM
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Here's my .02 - if all you want to spend is $25K - buy a 96 manual C2 with about 75-85K miles that's had recent service and from someone on RList.
Why gamble on the salvage?
Why gamble on the salvage?
06-01-2009, 09:16 PM
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these trips always bring back SUCH fond memories, i can never get over the sights and roads travelling through the US... fun car required 
2004: 4400 mi, toronto to seattle via grand canyon & sf (integra type r track car)
2005: 4000+mi, toronto to seattle via tx & along hwy 1 (supra TT)
2005: toronto to key west & back (s2000)
2007: sf to seattle via 1 (miata)
2007: seattle to sf and back via 1 (motobike)
2009: detroit to seattle (...coming soon
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now i just need to figure out how i intend to cover up the front bumper to protect from stone chips along the way... not sure on the condition of the front and if a 3m application is what i want to go with, else was thinking about looking into the roll on latex since the spray on stuff looks like a load o' snake oil....
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06-01-2009, 10:03 PM
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Kie, did you get ANOTHER 993, or this is for a "friend"?
IMHO, salvage titles are weird. Most banks will not give you any kind of loan for them. Some insurance companies will not insure them. If they do, & the car get "totaled" again, it will be hell trying to get a good payout. Really most of the time, the car is worth a lot less, think about it, a 993 with 2k mi gets hit bad enough to "total" it? That means there was some MASSIVE damage done. Depending on the year it happened the damage could have been in the $40,000 range. I would get the car PPI'ed & then send it to a body shop for another check.
Again, it's not worth close to what another 993 with 20kmi would sell for.
IMHO, salvage titles are weird. Most banks will not give you any kind of loan for them. Some insurance companies will not insure them. If they do, & the car get "totaled" again, it will be hell trying to get a good payout. Really most of the time, the car is worth a lot less, think about it, a 993 with 2k mi gets hit bad enough to "total" it? That means there was some MASSIVE damage done. Depending on the year it happened the damage could have been in the $40,000 range. I would get the car PPI'ed & then send it to a body shop for another check.
Again, it's not worth close to what another 993 with 20kmi would sell for.
06-01-2009, 10:27 PM
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I only did two cross-country trips, one in an '85 MR2 in '99, one in a 993 in '04. Both trips were two weeks and lots of very fun and cool memories.
I'd do it in my Miata too, but coilovers are not that much fun on the long ride. What I secretly dream about is a drive across the country in an ancient big Caddy or something similar. Huge, soft and carefree, no suspension to speak of...
I'd do it in my Miata too, but coilovers are not that much fun on the long ride. What I secretly dream about is a drive across the country in an ancient big Caddy or something similar. Huge, soft and carefree, no suspension to speak of...
06-01-2009, 11:32 PM
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penpen (Lori) bought this one. She wrote a check so a bank loan was not a consideration. She got a great deal on a Ducati and sent that and some $$$ to the 993 seller. She's in it "right" and ready to enjoy. I had already checked this car out every possible way last year and almost bought it myself back then.
Kie, did you get ANOTHER 993, or this is for a "friend"?
IMHO, salvage titles are weird. Most banks will not give you any kind of loan for them. Some insurance companies will not insure them. If they do, & the car get "totaled" again, it will be hell trying to get a good payout. Really most of the time, the car is worth a lot less, think about it, a 993 with 2k mi gets hit bad enough to "total" it? That means there was some MASSIVE damage done. Depending on the year it happened the damage could have been in the $40,000 range. I would get the car PPI'ed & then send it to a body shop for another check.
Again, it's not worth close to what another 993 with 20kmi would sell for.
IMHO, salvage titles are weird. Most banks will not give you any kind of loan for them. Some insurance companies will not insure them. If they do, & the car get "totaled" again, it will be hell trying to get a good payout. Really most of the time, the car is worth a lot less, think about it, a 993 with 2k mi gets hit bad enough to "total" it? That means there was some MASSIVE damage done. Depending on the year it happened the damage could have been in the $40,000 range. I would get the car PPI'ed & then send it to a body shop for another check.
Again, it's not worth close to what another 993 with 20kmi would sell for.
06-01-2009, 11:43 PM
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penpen (Lori) bought this one. She wrote a check so a bank loan was not a consideration. She got a great deal on a Ducati and sent that and some $$$ to the 993 seller. She's in it "right" and ready to enjoy. I had already checked this car out every possible way last year and almost bought it myself back then.
06-02-2009, 01:17 AM
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Earlier this year I ended up with a modded '95 that I really like. Then, the girl started jonesing for a 993 and she remembered the white car in MI with a story. She loves white vehicles. I pinged the owner who still had it and turns out he would take a Ducati 848 or 1098 as partial trade. As fate would have it I have a used motorcycle store so we put together a wacky deal that somehow worked for all the parties.
06-02-2009, 02:42 AM
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IMHO, salvage titles are weird. Most banks will not give you any kind of loan for them. Some insurance companies will not insure them. If they do, & the car get "totaled" again, it will be hell trying to get a good payout. Really most of the time, the car is worth a lot less, think about it, a 993 with 2k mi gets hit bad enough to "total" it? That means there was some MASSIVE damage done. Depending on the year it happened the damage could have been in the $40,000 range. I would get the car PPI'ed & then send it to a body shop for another check.
Again, it's not worth close to what another 993 with 20kmi would sell for.
Again, it's not worth close to what another 993 with 20kmi would sell for.
I only did two cross-country trips, one in an '85 MR2 in '99, one in a 993 in '04. Both trips were two weeks and lots of very fun and cool memories.
I'd do it in my Miata too, but coilovers are not that much fun on the long ride. What I secretly dream about is a drive across the country in an ancient big Caddy or something similar. Huge, soft and carefree, no suspension to speak of...
I'd do it in my Miata too, but coilovers are not that much fun on the long ride. What I secretly dream about is a drive across the country in an ancient big Caddy or something similar. Huge, soft and carefree, no suspension to speak of...
suspension sells these trips for me (with good tires, hee). i had a clean, traffic-less jaunt from ft bragg to legett in the miata when i picked it up (95 with kyb agx's, lsd nom nom.. also sight unseen) and let me tell you, i did appreciate the suspension. the type r is outfitted w ohlins, and the supra with teins... and i had an ear to ear grin each time... seattle roads make me cringe in the mean time... but oh well, life could be worse!
06-02-2009, 11:31 AM
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Looks like a fun road trip and excellent time of year to do it.
Photographer black gaffer's or blue painter's tape work well for temporary rock protection for the road trip.
Photographer black gaffer's or blue painter's tape work well for temporary rock protection for the road trip.
06-02-2009, 02:32 PM
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Beautiful car PenPen, I think you got a heck of a deal. Besides, everyone knows White's the fastest color and what a great road trip. I'm totally jealous and will be looking for your car to snap my neck up here in Capitol Hill. More pictures, please, upon your safe return.
06-02-2009, 02:59 PM
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the car has a clean title issued by the state of WA, as was the previous from MI. the claims were reported through ins though and as such turn up on the carfax... but no the ins company did not total it out. plus as the seller pointed out, this is not a car that one should buy if they are going to lose sleep over fellow pca'ers nit picking it to death. kie has gone above and beyond interviewing everyone who ever touched this car ad nauseum, so i don't have any qualms about picking this up. cars are meant to be enjoyed, and i will happily thrash it about on the track not worrying that an encounter with turn 7 is going to taint a pristine specimen. nobody is expecting it to fetch anywhere near the value of a clean, no story, low mileage example, so with all due respect, stop picking on my car! *holds it protectively* i will happily love it to bits, blemishes and all, and when i find myself in a better financial situation, who knows what i will step up to. for my first forray into pcar land, i am happy as a peach with this one!