C4S v. C2S values
#61
I must say that have reservations about renewing my membership when it comes due for 2 reasons. One is, now it's just another big corporate owned site and not a family run site anymore, and the other is you can only pay now via PayPal, which I have had a hard time getting to work for me, for some reason.
That said, I do think members probably do get a little better response than "users".
That said, I do think members probably do get a little better response than "users".
#66
Race Car
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Membership here, or asking others to join, it is of no point anymore.
Membership here, or asking others to join, it is of no point anymore.
#69
I thought all the Mercedes and Auto Union Grand Prix cars were silver during the pre WWII era.
Actually, white was the original racing color representing Germany. As the story goes, one year, the pre-war Mercedes-Benz Grand Prix cars were over the strictly enforced weight limit at race time. The engineers quickly scraped off the white paint and the resulting silver (bare metal) cars qualified, just barely, at final weigh-in. The look caught on and they were hence forth painted silver and referred to as the "Silver Arrows."
#70
I am sorry to disagree with you but of the 993 lineage the 95 Carrera RS would have to be the purist. Also it's a matter of opinion, the lines on the earlier
911's were exceptional and classic.
911's were exceptional and classic.
IF they annoy you then DONT click on it!! SHEESH how hard is that. The whole purpose of these forums is to talk about our cars and I am sorry but the search function is NOT perfect, in fact it leaves alot to be desired. SO its no sweat off anyones nose to ask a question even if it reoccurs every couple years. IF you dont like it dont read it. It shouldnt bother you unless you are part of the new democratic fairness doctrine movement which is out to limit free speech. When you buy a membership then you will be allowed to be annoyed. 530 posts without buying a membership is upthere in the cheap seats.
Now to the question. I have no dog in this race. I have had a 993 Twin Turbo, a 996 GT3, and a 2007 997 GT3. I had to sell my last GT3 because of my back problems which I had surgically fixed (I hope!)
Now I am back in the hunt for a 997 TT. However the 993 to me will always hold a special place in my heart. Its has the cleanest lines and is the most pure of 911s and if you think of its history it came out of no where. I would love to have a garage queen thats a 993. Now what kind? The 993 C4S is such a cool design. A turbo with out the motor. It has everything the TT has without the complexity of the turbo motor. Maybe a great compromise for someone who is more comfortable with a non blown motor. No Boost no diverter valves to go bad. No Turbo hoses to blow off right at the wrong time, no intecooler to worry about dinging. But it has the looks with the brakes and you can drive it in the winter months. Its a great car and it serves a special market. Its definitely a Porsche ICON.
HOWEVER the C2S is THE ICON of the 993 run outside of the Twin Turbo. This is the purist 911 in my opinion. It represents so much that is Porsche. All of the iconic GT cars are two wheel drive. The GT3 considered Porsches most purist drivers car. The 993 C2S most mimics that and its THE last air cooled 911. Its the purist example of air cooled 911. I dont think it is going to be worth that much more than the C4S which brings so much to the plate. But man the C2S is the bean!!!!
Now to the question. I have no dog in this race. I have had a 993 Twin Turbo, a 996 GT3, and a 2007 997 GT3. I had to sell my last GT3 because of my back problems which I had surgically fixed (I hope!)
Now I am back in the hunt for a 997 TT. However the 993 to me will always hold a special place in my heart. Its has the cleanest lines and is the most pure of 911s and if you think of its history it came out of no where. I would love to have a garage queen thats a 993. Now what kind? The 993 C4S is such a cool design. A turbo with out the motor. It has everything the TT has without the complexity of the turbo motor. Maybe a great compromise for someone who is more comfortable with a non blown motor. No Boost no diverter valves to go bad. No Turbo hoses to blow off right at the wrong time, no intecooler to worry about dinging. But it has the looks with the brakes and you can drive it in the winter months. Its a great car and it serves a special market. Its definitely a Porsche ICON.
HOWEVER the C2S is THE ICON of the 993 run outside of the Twin Turbo. This is the purist 911 in my opinion. It represents so much that is Porsche. All of the iconic GT cars are two wheel drive. The GT3 considered Porsches most purist drivers car. The 993 C2S most mimics that and its THE last air cooled 911. Its the purist example of air cooled 911. I dont think it is going to be worth that much more than the C4S which brings so much to the plate. But man the C2S is the bean!!!!
#71
The above-posted anecdote described how the original prewar Mercedes-Benz GP cars became known as "Silver Arrows" or "Silberpfeile." F. Porsche and Auto Union, Mercedes-Benz's chief competitors of that age, quickly followed suit. If I'm not mistaken, the term, from that time forward, was used in reference to both Mercedes and Auto Union GP cars of the prewar era.