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Old 11-05-2008, 11:58 PM
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im going after a 993, and i ultimatley want a widebody.

the question i ask to rennlisters, what would you prefer? rear wheel drive or all wheel drive?

*bare in mind this car is to be a secondary driver, and to be kept for the next 20 years as collection piece as my keeper of a perfect example of a classic 911.

Are the all wheel drives a little heavier for something i will only use on sunny days?
Are the all wheel drive systems prone to repairs? do they numb the driving experience?
Old 11-06-2008, 12:20 AM
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If you search, you will find that this topic has been covered before.

The AWD in the C4S is not trouble-prone and I think adds about 100 lbs. or so to the car. it is a pretty passive system and usually cannot be detected in day to day street driving, unless of course the ground is wet.

If you lived here in Los Angeles, I'd say C2S all the way. But up there in Newfoundland you get some weather. If you ever want to enjoy your Porsche in the less than ideal weather conditions you often get up there, you could do a lot worse than a nice C4S. Then again, if you're buying a collector piece/garage queen, you may never take it out in bad weather. Back to C2S in that case!

So you see, it really comes down to personal preference. One is no better than the other, just different.
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Good point, i will base my 993 purchase on whatever model i come across first that is the best example.

thx.
Old 11-06-2008, 12:56 AM
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Goofballdeluxe makes right-on points regarding driveline to driving condition considerations. From
a collector perspective the C2S was only available in the 97 and 98 model years and many were
produced with Tiptronic transmissions. The C4S was produced in the 96, 97 and 98 model years
and had the Big Red Turbo brakes. If I were shopping with your considerations I would base my
decision on condition more than anything else. Good luck and happy hunting!
Old 11-06-2008, 02:41 AM
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why not get a turbo
Old 11-06-2008, 12:14 PM
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If I were shopping for one, I'd go with a C4S, get the big brakes, etc. Then remove the AWD component
Old 11-06-2008, 12:28 PM
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Originally Posted by ilko
If I were shopping for one, I'd go with a C4S, get the big brakes, etc. Then remove the AWD component
you are a wise man.
I know a few people who think just the same as you
it's just metal bits, you put them in, you take them out.

have fun

Craig
Old 11-06-2008, 01:12 PM
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Go & drive both then pick what you like better!

Mine are both AWD, & I can tell you, my C4, kicked some *** this last weekend with the last PCA Auto-X, I set the 3rd top time in the morning group, & moved from 4th for the year to 3rd due to my AWD C4! It was good for almost 2sec over the 2wd 993's! Yes, it was wet.
Old 11-06-2008, 01:45 PM
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Get whatever presents itself with the color and option combination at the price point comfortable for you. Keeping in mind finding an example that has been maintained the way it left the factory and not irreversably modified for future desireability/collectibility.
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Originally Posted by Basal Skull
why not get a turbo
well, yes, a turbo would be great too...
Old 11-07-2008, 05:58 PM
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2S
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Originally Posted by Stealth 993
Go & drive both then pick what you like better!

Mine are both AWD, & I can tell you, my C4, kicked some *** this last weekend with the last PCA Auto-X, I set the 3rd top time in the morning group, & moved from 4th for the year to 3rd due to my AWD C4! It was good for almost 2sec over the 2wd 993's! Yes, it was wet.
What he said.
Old 11-07-2008, 11:23 PM
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Originally Posted by ilko
If I were shopping for one, I'd go with a C4S, get the big brakes, etc. Then remove the AWD component
I've been curious about this modification with my car but when I really think about it I come to the conclusion it is quite a big job. The way I see it this is what needs to be done:

- Pull the front diff, drive shafts, and main tube running back to the transaxle.
- Then you would need to find a new shifter assembly for the transaxle (not sure where to get a C2 unit or cost???)
- Would have to break apart the front axles and leave the outer stub axle so the ABS sensors can still read the ring gear.
- Would have to cap a few hydraulic pressure lines back at the transaxle.

Am I making this too difficult? Experts please weigh in

Sorry to hijack but this is at least related
Old 11-08-2008, 11:13 AM
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the AMD can keep you out of trouble on fast corners, you dont get as much float...

but I bought this one because it was just like my 993TT without the cost (and the extra 130 some odd ponies )
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Turbo first. If not, C2.



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