WTB: 993 Race Car
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One thing to consider is that PCA revamped the GT class rules and now use a Performance Index to classify cars. If I'm doing the calculations correctly, the car would be right smack in the middle of GT4 at a performance index of 707 ([2800lb weight/3.6L x 110HP/L] x 100=707. I'm not sure which cars run in GT4, but I'm guessing a stock engine with 2800lbs won't cut it too well. I don't really know.
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. If I'm doing the calculations correctly, the car would be right smack in the middle of GT4 at a performance index of 707 ([2800lb weight/3.6L x 110HP/L] x 100=707. I'm not sure which cars run in GT4, but I'm guessing a stock engine with 2800lbs won't cut it too well. I don't really know.
Mark
I have been trying to build a case with the local race authorities here to make a distinction between air cooled and water cooled P-Cars for an upcoming racing series. LBS/hp does not tell the whole story as newer chassis and watercooled engines have an advantage like for like. I am guessing this is why PCA has adopted this methodology, which I find excellent.
So if my understanding is correct, for an aircooled 993TT, they divide weight by a ratio of 210 multiplied by the displacement, whereas a 996TT with the exact same weight will have a multiplier of 230..
2 EXAMPLE:
993TT : 600 HP, 3400 LBS, 3.746 LTRS. => perf. index class = 427 (GT2)
996GT2: 600HP, 3400LBS, 3.746 LTRS. => per. index class = 374 (GT1)
Is the above correct please?
Thanks and apologies again everyone.
BTW, if looking for a 993 race car, you might want to talk to Chris Cervelli here on Rennlist, it seems like he knows how to prepare really fast ones.
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Hey, Jean!
Here are the new PCA rules for 2008: http://www.pca.org/clubrace/docs/200...%20Adopted.pdf
I got slightly different numbers. For the 993TT, 432 is the performance index (GT2) that I calculated using the exact 3.746 displacement that you quoted. For the 996TT, 378 is the PI (GT1. You used 230 for the HP/L; 240 is the actual number that PCA uses.) that I came up with.
PCA has definitely recognized that the newer, water-cooled turbo cars have an advantage over the air-cooled ones. Good luck with your case!
Here are the new PCA rules for 2008: http://www.pca.org/clubrace/docs/200...%20Adopted.pdf
I got slightly different numbers. For the 993TT, 432 is the performance index (GT2) that I calculated using the exact 3.746 displacement that you quoted. For the 996TT, 378 is the PI (GT1. You used 230 for the HP/L; 240 is the actual number that PCA uses.) that I came up with.
PCA has definitely recognized that the newer, water-cooled turbo cars have an advantage over the air-cooled ones. Good luck with your case!
#23
Here's one on ebay now. Not sure how much will buff out Maybe you can get the trailer with it.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Cars-...m280226610678&
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Cars-...m280226610678&
#26
Yeah, I don't think $23,000 is the right price, though. That car looks like it easily needs $12,000 worth of work . . . hood, RF fender, door work, windshield, windshield frame, frame damage, tub damage, oil cooler, front bumper, splitter, grille . . .
Might be a good car for a mechanic or body shop to pick up at that price.
Might be a good car for a mechanic or body shop to pick up at that price.
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Yeah, I don't think $23,000 is the right price, though. That car looks like it easily needs $12,000 worth of work . . . hood, RF fender, door work, windshield, windshield frame, frame damage, tub damage, oil cooler, front bumper, splitter, grille . . .
Might be a good car for a mechanic or body shop to pick up at that price.
Might be a good car for a mechanic or body shop to pick up at that price.
#30
The pale yellow one has been for sale off/on for more than a year. When I first looked at it, the price was $55K. Not sure if he still owns it or sold it to this dealer, but Alex Felton, a very good driver w/ POC was/is the owner of this car. If I was in the market for a track dedicated 993, I certainly consider this one (pending a good PPI).