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Old Feb 19, 2008 | 04:16 PM
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So I decided to paint the spoiler grille as I'm dropping of the Euro Turbo Bumper and rear Bumperettes to be painted.
From what I've read when doing the search on this forum it may be best to leave the grille on the spoiler as it is a real PITA to remove and then the reverse.
So I'll get them to mask around the grille but what about underneath? There is this black piece underneath the bottom part of the wing that covers part of the grille - did you guys get that painted as well or it should be masked?
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Old Feb 19, 2008 | 05:58 PM
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hans,
I've replaced my black grille insert - it was an intense pain in the *** to remove it from the wing without destroying the wing. I managed though, and then successfully bonded the new insert to the wing.

If you need to paint it, then by all means shoot in place. But I would have the 'scoop' area underneath thoroughly masked, as it would probably look crappy with the overspray.


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Old Feb 19, 2008 | 06:01 PM
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Originally Posted by jo-hans
So I decided to paint the spoiler grille as I'm dropping of the Euro Turbo Bumper and rear Bumperettes to be painted.
From what I've read when doing the search on this forum it may be best to leave the grille on the spoiler as it is a real PITA to remove and then the reverse.
So I'll get them to mask around the grille but what about underneath? There is this black piece underneath the bottom part of the wing that covers part of the grille - did you guys get that painted as well or it should be masked?
The black "under grill" piece that you are referring to stays in the car. You must remove the whole wing (4 screws) and have the whole wing painted away from the car, no need to tape off anything as the black grill, harness, motor, etc stays on rear lid of the car.

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Old Feb 20, 2008 | 02:55 AM
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Andreas did the right thing to separate the "layers" but I'm trying to avoid going that route. From looking at it I'll probably break something.

Cabrio993 - I did remove the spoiler as indicated on the picture but I'm talking about the highlighted area on the picture here:



What did you end up doing - did you get them to paint that area as well or did you mask it to block the spray?
Btw, your white cab looks good with that painted grill - it looks real good!
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Old Feb 20, 2008 | 08:11 AM
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Cabrio993 - IWhat did you end up doing - did you get them to paint that area as well or did you mask it to block the spray?
Btw, your white cab looks good with that painted grill - it looks real good!
Thanks!. That area of the wing is also painted white. If you don't color match that portion with the rest of the wing, you'll see a black section on half of the wing when the wing is up. There is no way to mask that off unless you remove the underneath portion.
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Old Feb 20, 2008 | 08:19 AM
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Originally Posted by cabrio993
Thanks!. That area of the wing is also painted white. If you don't color match that portion with the rest of the wing, you'll see a black section on half of the wing when the wing is up. There is no way to mask that off unless you remove the underneath portion.
That 'underneath' portion is actually part of the wing frame.


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Old Feb 20, 2008 | 08:58 AM
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Originally Posted by AOW162435
That 'underneath' portion is actually part of the wing frame.


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Yes, but it can be removed by unscrewing the self tapping washers. (see arrows on picture). Then, all you end up is with the top of the wing and the black top grill glued to it and you could paint just that.

I decided to paint the whole wing so when the wing is up, even the underneath of the wing (where the hand on the picture is) is also color matched. That's why I said that you could remove it, but you'll end up with a black plastic piece at the bottom if you do.

Andreas...sorry for all of the dirt in the picture...I know it's hard for you to see that. Not my wing....
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Thanks guys for the help.

This is what I'm going to do - I will need to separate the grille from the wing frame. So I have done this before with the center rear reflector of the car to separate the lens from the housing by soaking the assembly in the bath tub with very hot water - this will soften the plastic but also the adhesion strip and allows you to pull it apart without anything to break - even if I have to use a knife to get in between there the plastic should flex enough. This got to work. I will let you know later on today if it was successful.

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Cabrio,
From what I remember, the washer/nut/things are just there to secure the grille insert while the adhesive cures. The black inner 'scoop' portion is actually part of the entire wing body and appears to have been masked by the factory during the painting process.

My grille replacement


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Originally Posted by AOW162435
Cabrio,
From what I remember, the washer/nut/things are just there to secure the grille insert while the adhesive cures. The black inner 'scoop' portion is actually part of the entire wing body and appears to have been masked by the factory during the painting process.

My grille replacement


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Ahhh...that explains why I painted the whole thing!
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Andreas is right you really need to remove the grill portion from the"base" otherwise you wont have the contrast{unless your car is black and then it wouldn't matter)I did mine last fall, using a donor grill (thanks Andreas)it was not easy to remove the existing grill
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Originally Posted by nikdog
I did mine last fall, using a donor grill (thanks Andreas)it was not easy to remove the existing grill.
Ron,
My pleasure - any pics?

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Old Feb 20, 2008 | 05:24 PM
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Okay guys - soaking the spoiler in hot hot water is the ticket!
The plastic becomes bendable and the adhesion softer!
It took me about twenty minutes to separate the grille.
The only time I had to assist with a knife was at the top (narrow) part of the spoiler to cut the adhesive and the knife would slice through it with little effort.
No cursing no swearing - not yet anyways - I still have to remove the adhesive from both parts.
I think this would be a helpful tip on Robin's site....
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Originally Posted by nikdog
Andreas is right you really need to remove the grill portion from the"base" otherwise you wont have the contrast{unless your car is black and then it wouldn't matter)I did mine last fall, using a donor grill (thanks Andreas)it was not easy to remove the existing grill
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Andreas is always right... But my car is white and the grill wasn't removed and it turned out perfect...plenty of contrast, no overspray, etc.
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hans,
Speaking from experience, you'll want to get a tube of 3M windshield adhesive (caulking gun size). The end result will be just as bombproof as the original adhesive. I only used a small portion of the tube and gave the rest to nikdog.

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