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Old 11-12-2007, 07:00 PM
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Originally Posted by max911
If the bodyshop inspection calls for a new roof, I can't see why you couldn't put a non-sunroof top and headliner through insurance.
And would cost less as well. I presume.

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Old 11-12-2007, 07:04 PM
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Thank God you're OK. You are lucky that the windshield and animal didn't end up in your lap!
Best wishes for a speedy and quality repair to your car.
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Just thank God you didn't hit the deer with the Focus!!!!!
Old 11-12-2007, 07:39 PM
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I have to say I'm really impressed with the way the windshield glass was designed on that car. The plastic layer saved my finely chiseled features and probably kept that buck from coming through.

I will be insisting on genuine Porsche glass if they are going to go ahead with the repair.

I may also talk to the insurance company about the sunroof delete. Hell, it would save THEM money and result in a slightly stiffer and lighter car. The idea has merit on many levels, and a bureaucratic "rule" shouldn't ever stand in the way of doing the right thing.
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What a nightmare! Glad you didn't get hurt at least.
Old 11-12-2007, 08:29 PM
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Sorry to here about the hit! We live in SE WI and my wife and I each have a deer hit. This time of year is the worst. Hope you canget her fixed soon.
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Old 11-12-2007, 08:33 PM
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All Body shops write an estimate for the insurance company before they approve repairs. You should ask the shop or the insurance adjustor to see this estimate. This way you can determine what repairs are going to be made and if they are going to use any aftermarket and or salvage parts. The estimate will also show how close it comes to a Total Loss as indicated by the %ACV value. Unfortunately, this is usually against Blue/Red book values depending on the estimating system used.

Most likely, they will use aftermarket glass and glass mouldings in the repair. You can always insist on OEM glass with the Porsche brand 'label' but this is up to you. If you ever sell the car, some buyers may look for the OEM brand lebels. If they try to Total Loss your vehicle, depending on the insurance company, you could make a case for repair - especially if after a TL market valuation, the amount to replace turns out to be much higher than estimated repair costs. You may be able to play it either way depending on whether on not you want to keep the car.

PS - I'm not an insurance or body shop guy but I work in the industry. I've seen the entire roof of a Cavalier peeled right off the car in a moose it. Thank the stars that it was a deer.

Good luck.
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What a hit that must have been, glad you did not get hurt, or worse yet, run off the road in the process. I see deer everyday in my neck of the woods. I wish we could lower the population of these critters by allowing the hunters to take more of them during hunting season. We have so many deer in central Tx's that you don't even want to be out at night in the country. I had a good scare this am going to work with a big buck,, the little booger was close enough to see the hairs in his nose. Hope you don't total the car and get it back on the road.
Meanwhile, get a big truck and go deer hunting!
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Sorry about the car but glad you are OK.....did you at least dress out the deer and have a few venison steaks?.......ZP44
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Wow! Glad you're ok. Car looks to be repairable. Another testament to the tank nature of these cars!!
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Originally Posted by The Full Monte
All Body shops write an estimate for the insurance company before they approve repairs. You should ask the shop or the insurance adjustor to see this estimate. This way you can determine what repairs are going to be made and if they are going to use any aftermarket and or salvage parts. The estimate will also show how close it comes to a Total Loss as indicated by the %ACV value. Unfortunately, this is usually against Blue/Red book values depending on the estimating system used.

Most likely, they will use aftermarket glass and glass mouldings in the repair. You can always insist on OEM glass with the Porsche brand 'label' but this is up to you. If you ever sell the car, some buyers may look for the OEM brand lebels. If they try to Total Loss your vehicle, depending on the insurance company, you could make a case for repair - especially if after a TL market valuation, the amount to replace turns out to be much higher than estimated repair costs. You may be able to play it either way depending on whether on not you want to keep the car.

PS - I'm not an insurance or body shop guy but I work in the industry. I've seen the entire roof of a Cavalier peeled right off the car in a moose it. Thank the stars that it was a deer.

Good luck.
I took the car to Raymond Auto body here in St Paul for a reason. They've got the best rep in town, I've never heard anybody say anything bad about the quality of their work or their ethics. And I have already specified: Porsche parts ONLY.
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Oh noo...sorry to see that! Glad you are OK, it could have gone through the window instead of hitting the frame and it would have been a different outcome I'm afraid.

As others have said, I don't think that much damage would call for the insurance company to total the car. Another rennlister had a mishap with the lift crushing the roof in the garage and IIRC it was close to $10K to fix.

Sunroof and gutter delete time!

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Old 11-12-2007, 09:48 PM
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Thad, glad you're OK.

Now, on to the deer... I hope you killed the f@cker... it's a Karma thing...
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Originally Posted by Thaddeus
I took the car to Raymond Auto body here in St Paul for a reason. They've got the best rep in town, I've never heard anybody say anything bad about the quality of their work or their ethics. And I have already specified: Porsche parts ONLY.
Thaddeus,

I am not questioning the quality or ethics of the shop involved. I am sure that they are very reputable and will do an excellent job. It will be the insurance company that you should be wary of. The only way to be certain before they begin work is to check the estimate - I assure you that one exists and it is the one the insurance company approves. You can specify Porsche parts but they can still use salvage Porsche parts and section your roof panel if that is what's required. If you insist on Porsche glass, make sure you check for it on the estimate and then make sure that the Porsche OEM glass label appears on the 'bug' on the bottom left hand side of the windshield. Unfortunately, it is the insurance company which approves the work and it is usually the shop which must comply. No shop will loose money by putting in OEM glass when the insurance company only approves and pays for aftermarket - otherwise you may end up paying the difference on 'betterment'. OEM glass may be, and usually is, much more than aftermarket even though they may be made by the same manufacturer on the same production line.

Just trying to help you out...better safe than sorry.

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I'm glad you are OK. That had to be pretty scary. Sorry about your car. Sounds like it can b e fixed if the panel fit is still good.
Best of luck with the car.
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