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Old 11-07-2007, 09:23 PM
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Default '95 993 FS...priced right?

Seems like no other topic here gets more attention ...so how 'bout it? I've had my 95 993 C2 (6 speed) for sale for 6 weeks or more, RL, Autotrader and Ebay. So, far maybe 6 calls, 2 people for a test drive, 1 with a PPI but no reasonable offers with a asking price of $34,000 negotiable.

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I can't believe this is an unreasonable price for a very clean '95 guards red/black with 71K miles. I've owned 5 fairly low milage Porsches over the years, have another VERY nice 95 993 with 32k miles right now that's really not really in that much better shape than this one; in some ways the car with 71K mi runs and looks better. So, is $34,000 neg. out of line?

Thanks for your input guys.
Old 11-07-2007, 09:39 PM
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Originally Posted by tfm
Seems like no other topic here gets more attention ...so how 'bout it? I've had my 95 993 C2 (6 speed) for sale for 6 weeks or more, RL, Autotrader and Ebay. So, far maybe 6 calls, 2 people for a test drive, 1 with a PPI but no reasonable offers with a asking price of $34,000 negotiable.

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I can't believe this is an unreasonable price for a very clean '95 guards red/black with 71K miles. I've owned 5 fairly low milage Porsches over the years, have another VERY nice 95 993 with 32k miles right now that's really not really in that much better shape than this one; in some ways the car with 71K mi runs and looks better. So, is $34,000 neg. out of line?

Thanks for your input guys.
Hmmmm - sell the lower milage car, keep the keeper? My guess is that unless it's a 20K mile garage queen with the original air filter, people are predisposed to think of 95's as the 'affordable' entry into the 993 realm and somehow envision low-20's for dollar signs. That is unless it's a lo-mile cream puff with a highly desirabel color combo - whatever that might be. So 34K would naturally be an issue from the git-go. This is no kidding: I saw a 57K mile 95 recently sell for less than 26K but it had a few 'small' body issues, but with new clutch and some other stuff. It's a real quirky and narrow market. Try a lower starting price on ebay and try a lower reserve and BIN? Can you knock down the bottom line by swapping off some stuff - HID's, wheel/tires, etc.? 34K might be the invisible force field for pricing - a leetle bit lower sticker might unlock the offer mill??? Just a very weak 02cts worth.
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As a point of referance I bought my 96 in very good condition for $33.5 with 33k on the clock 4 years ago. I thought, at the time, I got a good deal but not a steal.

I think you have to go lower.
Old 11-07-2007, 09:47 PM
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I think you might be a little high, plus you're heading out of "season" in your neck of the woods, plus, let's face it, these are specialty cars that can take time to sell. I'd list at $32 and take $29-$30.

Who's got that pricing curve?
Old 11-07-2007, 09:52 PM
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Originally Posted by jford
As a point of referance I bought my 96 in very good condition for $33.5 with 33k on the clock 4 years ago. I thought, at the time, I got a good deal but not a steal.

I think you have to go lower.
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I think you might be a little high, plus you're heading out of "season" in your neck of the woods, plus, let's face it, these are specialty cars that can take time to sell. I'd list at $32 and take $29-$30.

Who's got that pricing curve?
+1

'95's are the best bargain of the model year, but that does not necessarily work well for you as a seller.
Old 11-07-2007, 09:53 PM
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Must say, my buddy Carreranow purchased a wonderfully sweet '95 in black with black/grey/variegated interior with 35K miles for around that price or so earlier this year. Sounds like the market is telling you to adjust your expectations a bit. Or keep it forever and enjoy the heck out of it.

Good luck, nonetheless!
Old 11-07-2007, 09:57 PM
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I had mine sold for 25K, but then I backed out. I want a GT3 but those prices are coming down as well..so i am waiting. I have 112K on my car, but suspension upgrades, exhaust, chip, track stuff, mine is really for a track person. Winters are harsh on car pricing, wait till Feb/March when it picks up agan.
Old 11-07-2007, 10:23 PM
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$34k for a '95 in the 20-30k mile range. +1 on $29-31k if it's very clean.

Be patient....many are thinking of winterizing.
Old 11-07-2007, 10:27 PM
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Over the summer I paid under $30K for a '96 coupe with similar miles to yours, a fresh top end and PSS9's. Your price is too high.
Old 11-07-2007, 10:48 PM
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Another reference point:

I just purchased my '95 C4 with 87k on the clock for $29,000...but the seller agreed to pay for a laundry list of little items and the 90k service. That total bill was $4,000 so the true cost to me (if I decided to do the work myself) was $25k for the car. From prior experience, I knew that having $$$ in reserve to pay for items soon after purchase was important; I was lucky to find a seller who was amenable to paying for these contingencies.

The C4 has HID's, new tires, C2S split grill, turbo ducts, a new glass-out paint job, Fabspeed Maxflos and runs great.

IMHO, I would agree with other posters that you may have to come down a bit on your asking price. I would think that $31k for the car would be a good price considering the time of year.
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I bought mine with 26,400 miles on July 29th for $42K with pretty much every mod that I wanted and actually had written down to do to a car I had not yet purchased. High...yes...stupid...maybe but ask me every time I walk out into the garage and make audible noises to myself and then ask me after an hour drive on a beautiful Saturday afternoon.
Old 11-07-2007, 11:24 PM
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Who's got that pricing curve?
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Old 11-07-2007, 11:29 PM
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I bought my 95 in January 2004 from with 73K on the clock for $33k. It had a Euro Turbo Bumper with Fogs and S Ducts, 18" Turbo twists, HID's, upgraded pedals, shift **** and e-brake handle, Rennsport chip, RSRs and a big stack of records. I actually bought mine from the same guy who sold Cactus his car. I agree with all the others- you would be right on to get about $30K for your car.
Old 11-07-2007, 11:38 PM
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27k in march for a 95 c2 with aftermarket wheels and 76k on the clock. PPI was done and certified by the shop, and 3 others looking at the car at the same time. Local seller so I paid a bit more than I should have for the convenience of less than an hour away to go get it and others waiting in line to pick it up if I backed out.

If browsing and I saw one with 71k for that price I may skip it to be honest, at least on the first round. I'd agree with others it may be just a tad high for the milage but if you can wait to sell it would be better for your bank account
Old 11-08-2007, 10:17 AM
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You have to look at the data points, not just the line. Note that there are 70-80k miles cars that sold for $32-33k and those that sold for $26-28k. Guess which ones were likely well maintained, with all the usual fixes taken care of? There is no doubt that a good market exists for quality mid-mileage cars.

And it's always nice to read that somebody got a good deal, or maybe even a steal. But don't price your car based on what some other desperate or less-knowledgeable seller was willing to take.

November in Pennsylvania is probably the worst time to sell a C2, though.


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