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Old 12-05-2012, 09:26 AM
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Originally Posted by Bill Verburg
They were never a dealer item, PMS or aftermarket only

Carnewal has the the full kit, carriers + mono-ball tierods+bearings ~$1770
The Porsche Motor Sport ones, available through dealers, are the ones that have gone for good, unless people have old stock on the shelf, which is unlikely, they will all be the RS type ones ie; not monoball
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Originally Posted by Paul902
I put in new ABS sensors, instead of trying to persuade the old ones to come out of the original uprights.
Yep, 2 sensors changed on mine as well, tricky to get them out after 16 years
Old 12-05-2012, 10:20 AM
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Originally Posted by 911PERVY
The Porsche Motor Sport ones, available through dealers, are the ones that have gone for good, unless people have old stock on the shelf, which is unlikely, they will all be the RS type ones ie; not monoball
As I said Porsche Motorsports parts were never available through dealers, you had to directly contact Porsche Motorsports

The dealers only have the RS parts available to them, Porsche Motorsports only items are marked >R< in parts books
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Can someone explain the benefits of the various tie rod upgrades?
I know the OE standard inside tie rod end has a partial non-metallic ball socket.
Is it designed to isolate the rack from road vibration?
Upon close examination the standard inside tie rod end only seems to cushions movement in the negative toe-in direction as the elastic part of the socket seems to be on only one side.
Since the socket is hard steel on the toe-out side does it really change the responsiveness of the steering or just gives greater road surface feedback to the driver?
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Originally Posted by Bill Verburg
As I said Porsche Motorsports parts were never available through dealers, you had to directly contact Porsche Motorsports

The dealers only have the RS parts available to them, Porsche Motorsports only items are marked >R< in parts books
Bill, please, Porsche Motorsports parts are available through your local Porsche Centre, trust me I have purchased loads of PMS bits from them.

PMS have no more GT2 tierods! The PMS number for the GT2 tierod was 99334703181 this has now superceeded to 99334703180 which is the RS version!
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Originally Posted by pp000830
Can someone explain the benefits of the various tie rod upgrades?
I know the OE standard inside tie rod end has a partial non-metallic ball socket.
Is it designed to isolate the rack from road vibration?
Upon close examination the standard inside tie rod end only seems to cushions movement in the negative toe-in direction as the elastic part of the socket seems to be on only one side.
Since the socket is hard steel on the toe-out side does it really change the responsiveness of the steering or just gives greater road surface feedback to the driver?
Andy
There are 4 different wheel carriers used on 964 and 993

964 & 964RS are steel, 993 and 993RS are aluminum
top are standard 964 steel w/ axial brake mounts, bottom are 993RS/Cup/RSR/GT2


here is a 964 RS w/ radial brake mounts instead of the standard axial mounts


Here is a 993RS on left(short arm) and stock 993(long arm) on right


the 964 and 993 w/ stock wheel carriers use a bent outer tierod(top) RS use a straight outer, all except 993 Cup/RSR/GT2evo use a rubber connector on the inner seen here on both the stock and RS inner, RS is stiffer


Here is a stock 993 outer/inner w/ rubber inner, on bottom is a RS outer w/ mono-ball inner these were only used on 993 Cup/993RSR/993GT2evo


the outer tie rod must be matched to the wheel carrier, all 964 and standard 993 use the bent outer, 993RS uses the straight one
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Originally Posted by 911PERVY
Bill, please, Porsche Motorsports parts are available through your local Porsche Centre, trust me I have purchased loads of PMS bits from them.

PMS have no more GT2 tierods! The PMS number for the GT2 tierod was 99334703181 this has now superceeded to 99334703180 which is the RS version!
Not on this side of the pond
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Originally Posted by Bill Verburg
Not on this side of the pond
OK, in Euroland our Porsche dealers get Porsche Motorsport parts for us, anyhow, they cant get the GT2 tierods anymore
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OK, in Euroland our Porsche dealers get Porsche Motorsport parts for us, anyhow, they cant get the GT2 tierods anymore
This is true (ask me how I know) and Gert also advised me that the GT 2 part is no longer made and Porsche will supply the RS rod as a replacement.

I've just sourced a pair in the US from Patrick MS but these are all 'old new' stock.

Get em while you can. (and double check that the part you are getting is indeed the correct part and not the Porsche equivalent, ask me how i know that too)

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Yep, Gert has updated his site to read;

Bump Steer Conversion Package For P93

Update Nov 2012 : The tie rods in the picture are the GT2 version which are no longer available and superseded into the Rennsport version.
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FWIW,...I have 2 pr of the GT-2 tie-rods left.
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Originally Posted by Steve Weiner-Rennsport Systems
FWIW,...I have 2 pr of the GT-2 tie-rods left.
Steve, you have PM


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