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Old 11-01-2007, 06:42 PM
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Originally Posted by melman911
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Do you have a picture of the split grill on your car? I was thinking about getting this for my car. Thanks.

Sorry for the temp hijack on the thread.
This is the only one I have right now. IMHO, it will look great on your red car.
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Old 11-01-2007, 08:46 PM
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Originally Posted by WHB Porsche
Steve, is there any way to get some personal counseling over the phone if I don't plan on having work done by you (I'm in NY)? I'd be more than happy to order whatever parts we decide on from you. Feel free to take this to PM if that's more appropriate.
Please call me anytime,.....

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Old 11-02-2007, 12:01 AM
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Originally Posted by Mark in Baltimore
Or Motons of Baltimore.

Sorry.

Steve, you were the one that explained it all to me way back when, so I'm just parrotting your words.

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Has anyone heard of or had experience with KW Variant 3 coilovers?http://rpgproduction.rpmware.com/kw-...4/i-68724.aspx
Old 11-02-2007, 11:52 AM
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I've been secretly suffering with an overly-stiff PSS9-993 for the past 9 months. That is, until I read this thread. Last night, I adjusted them from the initial setting of 4f/3r (since I had them installed, I haven't touched them), to full soft 9f/9r. It made a huge difference. The car not only is more comfortable than the stock setup over ANY bump, but it still handles better than the factory ROW M030. For street use, I am now convinced PSS9s are the best option. Adjustability is great!

I remember reading it, but I somehow forgot that the PSS9s are not 1:1 for each setting... 9 is much softer than 8, and 1 is much stiffer than 2. Here's how I think the settings would look on a linear stiffness scale:

(softer) 9------------8-7-6-5-4-3-2-------------1 (stiffer)
Old 11-02-2007, 01:04 PM
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Originally Posted by pcar964
I remember reading it, but I somehow forgot that the PSS9s are not 1:1 for each setting... 9 is much softer than 8, and 1 is much stiffer than 2. Here's how I think the settings would look on a linear stiffness scale:

(softer) 9------------8-7-6-5-4-3-2-------------1 (stiffer)
I have the shock dyno charts for those PSS-9's here and thats exactly what the force curves show,....
Old 11-02-2007, 01:08 PM
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Interesting pcar964. I definitely want to have my car lowered however I don't want to sacrifice ride quality. The roads in Michigan are awful and I need a softer suspension. I'm still on the fence as to what I will eventually do. PSS9's are nice but I won't ne adjusting them since I won't be tracking the car. I was leaning towards ROWM033 and HD's but that does not sound like the right set up now.

There's nothing wrong with my shocks. I wonder if I can just put the ROWM033 springs on with my current shocks. That might get me the ride height I want but without sacrificing ride quality. HMMMMM
Old 11-02-2007, 02:47 PM
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When I first got my car (at 78k miles), the first thing that I did was to buy some Eibach springs and install them over the OEM monroes (installed new at the 60k service) to get the car lowered. That was before I started reading Rennlist, and realized there were better options out there. I can say that the ride is pretty close to stock, but still gives you the lowered look. There were some threads that I read here on RL about Eibachs sagging over time, but mine haven't in the last two years. These are not mine, and I have no affiliation with the seller, but there is a new set on eBay right now.
I am now looking for something a bit firmer and more more performance oriented. The slope keeps getting steeper !
Old 11-02-2007, 04:26 PM
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Originally Posted by NOH20
Interesting pcar964. I definitely want to have my car lowered however I don't want to sacrifice ride quality. The roads in Michigan are awful and I need a softer suspension. I'm still on the fence as to what I will eventually do. PSS9's are nice but I won't ne adjusting them since I won't be tracking the car. I was leaning towards ROWM033 and HD's but that does not sound like the right set up now.

There's nothing wrong with my shocks. I wonder if I can just put the ROWM033 springs on with my current shocks. That might get me the ride height I want but without sacrificing ride quality. HMMMMM
With the PSS9s at full soft, the ride quality is unquestionably better than any factory setup I've ever driven. No exaggeration.
Old 11-02-2007, 05:24 PM
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Originally Posted by pcar964
With the PSS9s at full soft, the ride quality is unquestionably better than any factory setup I've ever driven. No exaggeration.
I've long said that PSS-9's on full soft made the car ride very well, if a tad floaty. Most said that the 9's were too hard on any setting, which my experiences did not corroborate.
Old 11-02-2007, 05:27 PM
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Originally Posted by pcar964
With the PSS9s at full soft, the ride quality is unquestionably better than any factory setup I've ever driven. No exaggeration.

What springs are you running with your PSS9's?
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Originally Posted by Mark in Baltimore
I've long said that PSS-9's on full soft made the car ride very well, if a tad floaty. Most said that the 9's were too hard on any setting, which my experiences did not corroborate.
Mark,

That's a great point and exactly my concern. If the PSS9s are set to pick the small stuff, they may be too soft on the larger bumps. What I'm looking for is a shock with more progressive action.
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Originally Posted by ddz
Has anyone heard of or had experience with KW Variant 3 coilovers?http://rpgproduction.rpmware.com/kw-...4/i-68724.aspx
+1. I'm anxious to see if anyone has experience with these.
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Originally Posted by jmarch
What I'm looking for is a shock with more progressive action.
Hi Joe:

As much as it pains me to say this,......those shocks are called Motons.

You get what you pay for,.....
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Originally Posted by ddz
Has anyone heard of or had experience with KW Variant 3 coilovers?http://rpgproduction.rpmware.com/kw-...4/i-68724.aspx
I was actually going to suggest them but since I do not have a 993 I figured I would stay out of it, but since they have been brought up... They are very popular with the UK 968 guys and are starting to make in roads with the US 968/944 crowd. I have them on one of my 968s and love them- a good high speed rebound and adjustable low speed rebound. A nice compromise for an occasional DE or the street and I use the same settings for both.

Extremely popular with a few of the sports car groups in the states over the last three yeas or so, I had them on my S2000.


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