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Old 10-16-2007, 10:33 PM
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Don't getme wrong; as a racer, I love Porsches more than most and, for the past 32 years, longer than most; however, the CGT is just too damn disco to me and is better suited to spar with the Lamborghini Gallardo than the Ford GT.
I hear you brother. But honestly if I had a choice...... Ahhh but what do I know.

it's a FORD!
+1 My point exactly!
Old 10-16-2007, 10:38 PM
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Originally Posted by melman911

Hey I like the Escorts! Great model and fun to drive! Best product Ford put out. Their 911.


Many enthusiasts would say that the Capri was Ford's 911. Ever heard of Zakspeed?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zakspeed

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ford_Capri
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Old 10-16-2007, 10:41 PM
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Many enthusiasts would say that the Capri was Ford's 911. Ever heard of Zakspeed?
Looks fast! I'm sure the production model looked close to that. j/k. Remember i'm on my 8th b er right now.
Old 10-16-2007, 10:46 PM
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I am doing one of those high dollar multi-marque track days myself next Monday at NHIS. I look forward to seeing how my 993 stacks up. I am also looking forward to seeing some really nice cars actually being used as they were intended.
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Originally Posted by melman911
Looks fast! I'm sure the production model looked close to that.
Sure! And if you squint really hard at the photo below, you can see the vestiges of a 911 SC in the 935 K3 that raced with the Capris.
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Old 10-16-2007, 10:53 PM
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If we're talking REAL GT, then it'd be
993GT2 = Ford GT40 > CGT > F430 > FGT.

The GT40 is amazing. The GT uses the same keyfob as a taurus...
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Sure! And if you squint really hard at the photo below, you can see the vestiges of a 911 SC in the 935 K3 that raced with the Capris.
Sure, I hear you. But.....i'll put my stock 993 against any production Capri out there...what do you think...do I have a chance??
Old 10-16-2007, 10:57 PM
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Originally Posted by melman911
Sure I hear you. But.....i'll put my stock 993 against any production Capri out there...what do you think...do I have a chance??
Have another beer, keep on changing the rules and I'm sure you'll win.

Good night.
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Originally Posted by Mark in Baltimore
Many enthusiasts would say that the Capri was Ford's 911. Ever heard of Zakspeed?


Yeah. I owned a 2.8i Capri in the UK back in the 90's and it was fun. Not as much fun as the highly tuned Escort RS Turbo (200 bhp) I traded it for. However, the build quality of these cars really left a lot to be desired. They are FORD built and you just can't get better than a German built car IMHO.
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Have another beer, keep on changing the rules and I'm sure you'll win.

Good night.
Hey it's all in fun. I just think Porsche makes a better vehicle.

They are FORD built and you just can't get better than a German built car IMHO
+1 I've owned 3 VWs (84 GTI, 91 Corrado, 89 Jetta), 2 Audis (97 A4, 2001 A6), 1 BMW (86 325), 1 Mercedes C55 AMG, 2 Porsches (84 Carrera, 95 Carrera 993). They are all above their class. But Porsches.... there is no substitute. Simply the best! Sorry I've never owned a Ford.

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Originally Posted by melman911
I saw a Ford GT on the road yesterday and it was pretty cool. In Gulf orange and blue. Very cool! But.... Porsche GT for me. Don't care what it looks like it's still a Ford. Piece of s@#$ in my book. IMHO. Not to get hostile or anything.
Personally, I think that is a really bad observation and you should be banned.

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Personally, I think that is a really bad observation and you should be banned.
I think you're right.
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BTW-All the 911's went out in a seperate session from the exotic cars, so I was out with Carrera S' and the GT3's. I was very surprised by how well the old 993 more than kept up, I was only passed by one Carrera S until my fan belt went and I had to retire for the day. I'm running M030 with BilsteinHD's and new Bridgestone rubber. These cars can run with the new stuff, just check your belts first!
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In no particular order:

Any of you guys driven a Ford GT in anger? My cousin has one and it is a huge, wallowing, pig. And I fried the brakes in four laps. Wasn't even worth using 2nd gear (Thunderhill).

Zakspeed Mustangs/Capris. Wow. This was when I went to my first pro race @ Sears. Klaus Ludwig and Rick Mears in these teeny, tiny 4-cyl Kent pushrod (think formula ford) engined "things". Not that a 935K3 with Ongais/Haywood/Fitzpatrick/Rahal/etc weren't more exotic. Ludwig won the race (http://www.racingsportscars.com/phot...-26-photo.html for some photos taken by our own Van Zannis.....who now owns one of the IROC cars, I believe).

Love the exotics, but whenever they are out it seems our pedestrian cars measure up quite well.



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