Best Track Pads?
08-01-2007, 03:00 PM
#31
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Originally Posted by gerry100
Thanks.
I'll order the Hawk 9012 Blues , pu them in before the next DE and take them out after the last one in September.
Car is basically a sunday driver/DE car so I'm comfortable leaving the blues in between events.
I'll order the Hawk 9012 Blues , pu them in before the next DE and take them out after the last one in September.
Car is basically a sunday driver/DE car so I'm comfortable leaving the blues in between events.
Don't drive on the street w/ the Hawk Blue compound. They need lots of heat to really work. Without heat they'll chunk up and make your rotors look like meat.
The only street use my blues see is from the trailer to the garage. It is really easy to change Porsche pads. I don't understand why people don't do it. Plus, are you guys running R compound tires?
I can change all pads and tires on my car in 30 minutes
08-01-2007, 03:36 PM
#33
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I haven't had that issue w/ the Porsche, but the Mazda was another story. Maybe because it was much lighter vehicle?
Mark, you going to do PCA at VIR in September?
Mark, you going to do PCA at VIR in September?
08-01-2007, 05:41 PM
#35
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C'mon Mark! You haven't hit the VIR pipe in a while. Pat, I'll be there, black RSA, 242.
On topic, I went from Pagid Orange, to black and now to Yellow. My vote is Pagid Yellow, 19 or 29.
On topic, I went from Pagid Orange, to black and now to Yellow. My vote is Pagid Yellow, 19 or 29.
08-02-2007, 09:28 AM
#39
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They ARE expensive....
Looking at about $500 a set, retail. Nobody really dickers on these Pagid pads...they don't have that much margin to play with. I believer distributor cost for a set of Orange fronts and Black rears is about $400...just guessing, don't really know.
But the good news, they really work well and seem to be rotor friendly, in my experience. In 6 years of tracking, I am going on my 4th set of rotors*...backs have lasted 2X longer than fronts.
I had the original set turned once...this has turned out to be a !
But the good news, they really work well and seem to be rotor friendly, in my experience. In 6 years of tracking, I am going on my 4th set of rotors*...backs have lasted 2X longer than fronts.
I had the original set turned once...this has turned out to be a
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08-03-2007, 01:42 AM
#41
Why do I feel so left out!
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I use Pagid blacks All round....
I am running out of brakes - I am about to do a BIG upgrade.... all round.
Stay tuned....
Simon.
I am running out of brakes - I am about to do a BIG upgrade.... all round.
Stay tuned....
Simon.
08-03-2007, 10:37 AM
#42
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Don't tell anyody but....
I have used stock pads on the track...a track that didn't require lots of braking, based on a suggestion from one of our former Gurus, DJ. They worked remarkably well, considering how cheap they are per set. These Porsche engineers apparently know what they are doing. Later in the day, I did slip in a set of Pagid pads, Black front, Orange rear...wow, what a difference.
Based on the perceived superiority of stopping power, Pagid VS stock, I subsequently decided to stick with the Pagid pads, albeit expensive at about $500 a set for Pagid Orange front, Pagid black rears for my Big Red calipers. The PO supplied the Big REds...thanks PO...although the Big Red pads and rotors are indeed more spendy compared to stock. Note Big Red front rotors are $175 each, best price I could find.
With this latest set of Pagid brake pads, I have allowed myself to get sucked into the possible "urban legend" vortex that suggests that the rear could use a little more bite with a full tilt boogie brake application, with the Orange front and the Black rear combination ameliorating some of the chassis dive induced by deceleration. I will test out the theory on the track later this month at Laguna Seca, in Monterey, CA.
I have also had Paul Guard rebuilt the LSD, doubling the # of clutches, from 2 to 4, in the 40/60 stock ramp configuration. This should also help control the car under deceleration. Damn...I am chatty today...need to throttle back a bit.
Based on the perceived superiority of stopping power, Pagid VS stock, I subsequently decided to stick with the Pagid pads, albeit expensive at about $500 a set for Pagid Orange front, Pagid black rears for my Big Red calipers. The PO supplied the Big REds...thanks PO...although the Big Red pads and rotors are indeed more spendy compared to stock. Note Big Red front rotors are $175 each, best price I could find.
With this latest set of Pagid brake pads, I have allowed myself to get sucked into the possible "urban legend" vortex that suggests that the rear could use a little more bite with a full tilt boogie brake application, with the Orange front and the Black rear combination ameliorating some of the chassis dive induced by deceleration. I will test out the theory on the track later this month at Laguna Seca, in Monterey, CA.
I have also had Paul Guard rebuilt the LSD, doubling the # of clutches, from 2 to 4, in the 40/60 stock ramp configuration. This should also help control the car under deceleration. Damn...I am chatty today...need to throttle back a bit.
08-03-2007, 12:20 PM
#43
Originally Posted by Martin S.
With this latest set of Pagid brake pads, I have allowed myself to get sucked into the possible "urban legend" vortex that suggests that the rear could use a little more bite with a full tilt boogie brake application, with the Orange front and the Black rear combination ameliorating some of the chassis dive induced by deceleration. I will test out the theory on the track later this month at Laguna Seca, in Monterey, CA.
08-27-2007, 06:25 PM
#44
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This works
Just got back from a 3 day track weekend at Laguna Seca with the Porsche Owners Club. It was a tough assignment, but someone had to do it....perfect weather, which it ALWAYS is in the Monterey area in August.
I tried out Pagid Orange on Front, Pagid Black on the rear. It worked like a charm..the car seemed a little more stable than my former combo of Black Fronts and Orange rears.
I tried out Pagid Orange on Front, Pagid Black on the rear. It worked like a charm..the car seemed a little more stable than my former combo of Black Fronts and Orange rears.
08-27-2007, 07:17 PM
#45
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Pagid RS 19 or 29 (very similar) in front and RS 14 in the rear. Accept no substitutes. The ceramic pads (19, 29, 14, etc.) are far superior to the previous generation (Orange RS4 etc.) They cost more (sadly) too.
