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Old 07-26-2007, 10:01 AM
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Hey folks - due to a wiggly steering wheel and slight occasional wandering and shimmy under braking, I think it's time to overhaul the front end while I install Bilst. HD's on my 106K mile 95 993. I installed the rack brace this weekend and it made a difference, but pretty much feels sloppy still. I am running the Porsche 'twist' 18" rims w/P-0's and they are virtually new. Here's my partial list:

Lower A arms
All ball joints
tie rods & ends
Sway bar bushings
ROW "standard" springs - a very strong MAYBE since the SUV ride height is ok with me, I will likely leave them in place.

All new hardware for all items changed

Pads & rotors look fine


What else? I want to do all this in one swell foop before alignment

Not really interested in RS stuff since I want to keep it 'stock'
Old 07-26-2007, 11:08 AM
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Why don't you just have your mechanic diagnose the problem and replace what needs to be replaced? I don't see the logic in spending all the $$ to replace parts that might be fine.
Old 07-26-2007, 11:12 AM
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Originally Posted by pcar964
Why don't you just have your mechanic diagnose the problem and replace what needs to be replaced? I don't see the logic in spending all the $$ to replace parts that might be fine.
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bent wheels, through a wheel weight, or crappy tires.
Old 07-26-2007, 01:03 PM
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+1 on having the mechanic (or fellow Rlister) check it out. A complete front overhaul will be pricey...and possibly not needed.

If you replace the tie-rods, there is a complete assy that you can order and save a lot of $$ over the ends and rods separately. The PN is in the computer, but the parts guy will have to dig for it.
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If your going to do this much work, include wheel bearings and tie-rod 'inners' to your list as well as either new lower control arms or replace the rubber a-arm bushings with aftermarket Urethane. I feel your largest gains will be with the lower control arm bushings.
Old 07-26-2007, 05:42 PM
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Originally Posted by chris walrod
If your going to do this much work, include wheel bearings and tie-rod 'inners' to your list as well as either new lower control arms or replace the rubber a-arm bushings with aftermarket Urethane. I feel your largest gains will be with the lower control arm bushings.
I'm trying to sort out some handling issues as well. I read in another thread about checking for cracks in the bushings by using a pry bar or screwdriver as a lever. I didn't really see any cracks when I tried to check mine, but there was a little bit of play. How do you know when there is too much play?
Also, on those tie-rod inners, can you use RS tie-rods on a regular (non-RS) 993?
Old 07-26-2007, 05:52 PM
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Marlon,
You are more than welcome to give my 45,000-mile steed a whirl in order to guage the differences. I find that mine feels a bit goofy when first driving it due to tire flat-spotting. All seems well after 15 minutes or so.

My vote would be for the rubber-filled inner tie-rods.

Andreas
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Andreas - Sounds like a great idea! I am leaning towrds complete stock setup with exception of shocks. I would like to try yours and vice versa to establish a known baseline. Ihave an appointment with the local Porsche dealer Monday to look it over and give their assessment. Regarding the ressponse on a 'bent wheel' - my shimmy comes and goes. I had a bent rear wheel on one of my 911 SC's a few yrs agao, and you could darn well tell there was a problem. Not so much around town, but at highway speeds!
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A good front end overhaul could also include a turbo nose! ;-)

Cheers,

David
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