Notices
993 Forum 1995-1998

Replacement Shocks

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Mar 20, 2007 | 11:55 AM
  #16  
Svaha's Avatar
Svaha
Pro
 
Joined: Feb 2006
Posts: 527
Likes: 1
From: Riverside, CA
Default

They cam with NA ride heights from the factory, they were not designed for NA ride heights.
Reply
Old Mar 20, 2007 | 01:42 PM
  #17  
texas911's Avatar
texas911
Race Car
 
Joined: Sep 2004
Posts: 4,053
Likes: 3
From: Houston, Texas
Default

Huh? How can you say they weren't designed for NA ride heights if they came from the factory that way?
Reply
Old Mar 20, 2007 | 02:26 PM
  #18  
tropheus's Avatar
tropheus
Rennlist Member
15 Year Member
 
Joined: Jan 2007
Posts: 869
Likes: 74
From: Berlin, Germany
Default

The NA ride heights was just set up to fulfill the requirements which were put in place from the government. For what ever reasons the US decided that the ride heights are to low for this country. Porsche then tried to find a work around. The same happened with the under tray for the Swiss sound regulations.
Reply
Old Mar 20, 2007 | 02:39 PM
  #19  
GeoT3's Avatar
GeoT3
Rennlist Member
20 Year Member
 
Joined: Jun 2001
Posts: 611
Likes: 1
From: NJ
Default

I believe it had to do with bumper height in NA... think of suv's
Reply
Old Mar 20, 2007 | 02:42 PM
  #20  
RallyJon's Avatar
RallyJon
Weathergirl
Rennlist Member
 
Joined: Oct 2002
Posts: 4,895
Likes: 17
From: SE PA
Default

Porsche used three ride heights on 993s--US, ROW, ROW M030--while keeping essentially the same geometry. Do you think that U.S. height requirements were a surprise to Porsche? They'd been dealing with them for decades. It's pretty safe to assume that US through ROW M030 are all within the 993 suspension's range without bad effects. Only when then went down to RS height did they need to change some components.
Reply
Old Mar 20, 2007 | 03:15 PM
  #21  
texas911's Avatar
texas911
Race Car
 
Joined: Sep 2004
Posts: 4,053
Likes: 3
From: Houston, Texas
Default

Plus, back when the 993 was being produced, the US accounted for a lot of their market. Do you really think they didn't have our ride heights in mind when they "designed" the 993?

Anyway, the vast majority of people that go lower only do it for looks.
Reply
Old Mar 20, 2007 | 04:25 PM
  #22  
GeoT3's Avatar
GeoT3
Rennlist Member
20 Year Member
 
Joined: Jun 2001
Posts: 611
Likes: 1
From: NJ
Default

I would think the lower the CG the better the handling in general...save for our 40/60 F&R weight distribution... the only disadvantage with lowering the car from suv height to row and rs is that its a major PIA when we go over speed bumps and driveway entrances.
Reply
Old Mar 20, 2007 | 04:32 PM
  #23  
RallyJon's Avatar
RallyJon
Weathergirl
Rennlist Member
 
Joined: Oct 2002
Posts: 4,895
Likes: 17
From: SE PA
Default

The main disadvantage to lowering is that is screws up the camber curve and ruins your handling if you go too low without relocating suspension pickup points. Extremely low strut suspension cars can have evil understeer as the front camber goes positive in a hard turn. Remedy is ridiculously stiff suspension and sway bars. It's a vicious cycle that can be easily avoided by moderate lowering only.
Reply
Old Mar 20, 2007 | 04:35 PM
  #24  
Boeing 717's Avatar
Boeing 717
Registered User
 
Joined: Oct 2005
Posts: 13,674
Likes: 265
From: Not here
Default

Damian how what was your indication that they were worn out????

JERRY
Reply
Old Mar 20, 2007 | 06:03 PM
  #25  
993MAN's Avatar
993MAN
Drifting
20 Year Member
 
Joined: May 2004
Posts: 2,193
Likes: 18
From: New Zealand
Default

Boeing 717
I am waiting for my new HD's to arrive from Gert as we speak.
I found that coming out of corners the car would wallow a bit and generally feel a bit sloppy.
Everyone here reckons the stock shocks don't last anyway. I took there advise and am looking forward to attempting the job myself.
Reply
Old Mar 20, 2007 | 06:24 PM
  #26  
Jack of Hearts's Avatar
Jack of Hearts
Racer
 
Joined: Feb 2006
Posts: 488
Likes: 1
From: Long Beach, CA
Default

FWIW, I lowered my car to just below ROW and it handles and looks much better. That said, I am constantly dragging bottom and/or scraping stuff: Drainage channels cut across the road (if not seen early and taken slowly), steep driveways, alleyways, entrances to gas stations, parking lot blocks. The people on this board that say: "I'm at RS height and I never scrape" Do you drive the car at more than 20 mph?

Face it, US of A roads are set up for Ford Explorers, not European sports cars.

And all that said...I'm not changing my car back.

JoH
Reply
Old Mar 20, 2007 | 07:04 PM
  #27  
pedsurg's Avatar
pedsurg
Three Wheelin'
 
Joined: Dec 2002
Posts: 1,367
Likes: 0
From: Tampa
Default

texas: relax, if you like SUV asthetics, go with it. You paid your money ... Like I said, fot the most part it remains a free country, particularly Texas.

Jack
Reply
Old Mar 20, 2007 | 11:32 PM
  #28  
RallyJon's Avatar
RallyJon
Weathergirl
Rennlist Member
 
Joined: Oct 2002
Posts: 4,895
Likes: 17
From: SE PA
Default

The people on this board that say: "I'm at RS height and I never scrape" Do you drive the car at more than 20 mph?
Those weenies are all in CA or FL where there are no potholes or frost heaves or... Oh wait.

So what DO you do, when you're down at RS height, with your extra stiff suspension and swaybars the size of my 2 year old's wrist, in the middle of a hard second gear turn, when your outside rear wheel hits a pothole, or drops off the edge of the tarmac? Suddenly the swaybar turns into a 4' long crowbar that's levering your car onto its roof. Here in PA, where the roads are as potholed and bumpy as they are twisty and fun, I'm a big fan of suspension travel and independence.
Reply
Old Mar 21, 2007 | 12:38 AM
  #29  
pedsurg's Avatar
pedsurg
Three Wheelin'
 
Joined: Dec 2002
Posts: 1,367
Likes: 0
From: Tampa
Default

Hey you're describing 17 at Sebring. : )

jack
Reply
Old Mar 21, 2007 | 12:41 AM
  #30  
pedsurg's Avatar
pedsurg
Three Wheelin'
 
Joined: Dec 2002
Posts: 1,367
Likes: 0
From: Tampa
Default

And the choice is not SUV vrs bump steer RS; the range can be SUV - RW - Bump steer RS.

Jack
Reply



All times are GMT -3. The time now is 01:29 AM.