TheOtherEric

Agreed.

Hmmm. Are suggesting that pca d-stock racers are NOT running stock motors? That couldn't happen.

Tough call. Add a couple sec for weight, subtract a couple for suspension and tires. Still probably hard to get on the podium due to other cars that are running in D. That time would have qualified 5th out of 11 cars last year. This is the fault of PCA's car classifications, of course, and NOT Petu's driving, which is clearly top notch.

Mark in Baltimore

From what I've seen, many of the go-fast bits in PCA stock cars are in the tranny and not the motor. Your region may vary.

It's always interesting to see a PCA stock race car that is then sold to a Rennlister who advertises some of the, um, liberal mods that reside in the car.

csertich

Great video. I just watched it 3 times....
chuck

ruffy

aweinspiring stuff
thanks finn

Flying Finn

That issue of not being able to run as RS with stock (lower hp..) engine is basically why I'm not club racing. I think with stock weight though if I'd spend money on Motons, slicks & tranny one can be pretty competitive with 993 though. But the problem is I haven't found sponsors for those items yet!

Everyone, thanks for nice comments!

forklift

Here are my thoughts....Finn is obviously a very good driver.

As far as mods/weight vs. time here is what I have experienced:

-a passenger is usually .75-2.0 seconds depending on weight. I would guess 160 lbs would be around a second.

-I just went from PSS9s to JRZs in Sept. and so far have gained .10 of a second. This is after my shop owner who is very fast and experienced has driven the car and set it up twice and I have experimented with probably around 70? combinations of nitrogen, sways, rebound and compression. Everything else has remained constant including my RA-1s. IIRC Ronnie S (Rocketman), who is very, very fast (and experienced) tried double adjustable shocks a while back and was unable improve on his non-adjustable shocks (cup shocks probably). I did a lot of research before I bought the JRZ and usually saw a consensus of 2-4 seconds. I was just hoping for 1. That may happen still, but I doubt it...and by the time it does happen it could be from improvement in my driving. If you are getting the most of your PSS9s like I think I was, you may not see the improvement you are hoping for.

IIRC, Finn was running 710s which from what I have read on other forums (Corvette) only a few tenths off the pace of the Hoosier R6. If they were RA-1s then that will be a second or two.

I see the net result of adding weight and going to Motons/JRZs and Hoosiers as a loss of around a second....but just my opinion from my recent experience.

Speaking of cheating, check out this RSA in Canada which is advertised in the PCA classifieds as "PCA Legal"...this is the link from the ad: http://www.silverlakemotorsports.net/jc87930/RSA/

Anyway, Finn, great driving!

Monique

Nice and smooth Finn. Well done.

Garth S

Computer help needed - cannot view the video

I followed the link to update my Quicktime to version 7.1.3 (without iTunes), for my old version would play the audio .... and some contorted reverse colour image of the video.
Now, when browsing for the file and clicking play on the newly installed Quicktime version ( downloaded the 993 vid to 'My Videos'), all I get is a weak audio track - and no video

Any suggestions as to how to correct this???

Mark in Baltimore

Garth,

I had issues, too, and had to run Quicktime and then open up the vid file through Quicktime. It finally played. I'm not sure why it didn't open up with Quicktime since I've had no other issues with mpg files.

JimB

Finn,
Nice drive. I raced at Sebring for the first time last year and missed most of the practice due to a broken gas pedal. I wish I would have had your video to prepare for qualifying.

The PCA rule that keeps you from running your car as an RS doesn't seem to make sense on the surface but remember this is a stock series and they are just trying to keep the cars as close to a factory car as possible. Besides, you would never be competitive in C without doing the full conversion anyway.

I think Forklift is about right. The 710s are fast and the PSS9s aren't that big of a handycap at Sebring where a softer setup makes sense. You could probably add a second and have a pretty good idea where you would fit in with the D racers. You also have to factor how much time you have a Sebring vs the guys/gals you are comparing your times to.

Either way, clearly you can really drive a car. Find a racecar and come play with us.
Jim

mbb993

Finn,

Great video and great track! Next best thing to being there.
Only been to Sebring twice for DE's but can't wait to get back.

Thanks for sharing.

Flying Finn

Jim & Jim,

Re: 710s. Although I have no experience on Hoosiers since I've never had them (I had smaller MPSCs before) I agree, they're very fast tyres.

I had different sizes from before but these tyres & sizes (245 & 285) were really well balanced. I could go into turns and if something, I'd end up with a small, almost four wheel drift so it gave a lot of confidence to go in fast (before with Michelins I had oversteer which I prefer but you had to be more careful).
Maybe little too much understeer tendency for my taste but overall I thin they're great.

Can't comment on suspension, you're probably right since as you said, Sebring is bumpy.

I know for sure I can improve two seconds "easily".

By "easily" I mean the potential (of car) is there, I'm just good enough to "take" it yet (line here and there, braking & especially turn in pretty much everywhere etc.), this was my 5th day at Sebring so I don't have too many miles there and it's always usually almost a year between the events (which is too long) so I have plenty of learning to do. I appreciate all the comments, every time I've posted a video I've learned something from someone. Hopefully next month (48 hors) I can get lot of people riding with me (JimB, you're coming, right?).

Once I get down to 2.26-2.27 range, I can start thinking club racing seriously.

Thanks again to everyone.

38D

You don't need to run 26s. Last year, Bill Martin only ran one 26. He did run a bunch of 27s. I only ran a few 27s & 28s. No one else broke 28. Well, Van Zelst did but his car always breaks (944 turbo cup). If you can run consistently in the 29 +/- range, you'll be in the top 3. Plus, Bill, Terry Heath and I all moved out of D, so that leaves ErnieJ, Al Noveck and Bob DiMarco as the main guys you'd need to contend with.

I'll see if I can find my Sebring 2:27 lap from the enduro for comparison (amazing, it was on lap #22!).

pcar964

The question remains, Finn... will you race your beautiful 993? Or will you get a separate racecar? Perhaps too early to tell.

JimB

Finn,
If it was only your fifth track day at Sebring then that was even better. Excellent. I won't be in Sebring for the club race but may be there for the 12 hour doing a support race in a Panoz GTS if a bunch of stuff works out. Maybe we can grab a beer. I'd love to ride with you sometime though.

FWIW I wouldn't race the 993. Mark wouldn't agree but I think 993s are too pretty to wreck and too slow to race. (sorry but I couldn't stop in without taking a shot at the air cooled crowd. )
Jim