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Old 11-03-2006, 01:51 PM
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Valve guides have been the 911s achilles heel since the beginning. It's only the advent of the post '96 SAI CEL that has alerted owners to the very earliest signs that the valve guides might just be STARTING to wear a little. In the old days you could simply decide for yourself that the billowing blue smoke, cacophonous clatter coming from the valvetrain and an oil top up every morning were trying to tell you something.
Old 11-03-2006, 02:06 PM
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Originally Posted by Matt Davies
Valve guides have been the 911s achilles heel since the beginning. It's only the advent of the post '96 SAI CEL that has alerted owners to the very earliest signs that the valve guides might just be STARTING to wear a little. In the old days you could simply decide for yourself that the billowing blue smoke, cacophonous clatter coming from the valvetrain and an oil top up every morning were trying to tell you something.
LOL...very good. Reminds me of the mid '70's cars that when a vacuum valve on the auto trans. failed the exhaust would produce a billowing trail of white smoke, like something out of a James Bond movie. ...I know, oil smoke is blue.
Old 11-03-2006, 02:12 PM
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White smoke: Water
Blue smoke: Oil
Black smoke: electrical fire
Old 11-03-2006, 03:17 PM
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Black smoke is also rich mixture
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Originally Posted by 2ndof2
...That sure seems like alot of oil consumption for only 621 mi. Whats that, roughly 3/4 of a quart of oil for every tankfull of gas?...
Most people don't realize that you can pre-mix the oil directly into the gas tank at fill up. That's what I do on my 2-cycle Honda sport bike. The engine came with an oil injection system, but many people remove the system and then run "pre-mix". The mixture should be anywhere from about 1:30 to 1:50 (oil/gas ratio). The 1:50 is about as lean as you should go on the bike without risking premature engine failure.

But the P-car is different, as everyone knows, and you can obviously get away with running a bit leaner. A good ratio is anywhere from about 1:80 to 1:225. Since my tank holds 85 liters, I stick to 1:85 and buy the 1-liter bottles of oil for the convenience factor.
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Originally Posted by murphyslaw1978
Most people don't realize that you can pre-mix the oil directly into the gas tank at fill up. That's what I do on my 2-cycle Honda sport bike. The engine came with an oil injection system, but many people remove the system and then run "pre-mix". The mixture should be anywhere from about 1:30 to 1:50 (oil/gas ratio). The 1:50 is about as lean as you should go on the bike without risking premature engine failure.

But the P-car is different, as everyone knows, and you can obviously get away with running a bit leaner. A good ratio is anywhere from about 1:80 to 1:225. Since my tank holds 85 liters, I stick to 1:85 and buy the 1-liter bottles of oil for the convenience factor.
This must be a joke right?! Running the motor like a 2 cycle! Your nuts.
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Nope. That's now part of the permanent archives. Some new owner will be thinking, "hmm, what to do about the oil consumption?" run a search and end up calling Autozone looking for Mobil1 two-stroke oil.
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What?????? Oil in the gas tank????? C'mon.....why would I ever do something that crazy? This is a Porsche 993 motor not an outboard motor!
I think I'll stick to adding oil in the oil filler and fuel in the fuel filler thank you.
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Oil in the gas tank. Cmon!!!
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Originally Posted by murphyslaw1978
Most people don't realize that you can pre-mix the oil directly into the gas tank at fill up. That's what I do on my 2-cycle Honda sport bike. The engine came with an oil injection system, but many people remove the system and then run "pre-mix". The mixture should be anywhere from about 1:30 to 1:50 (oil/gas ratio). The 1:50 is about as lean as you should go on the bike without risking premature engine failure.

But the P-car is different, as everyone knows, and you can obviously get away with running a bit leaner. A good ratio is anywhere from about 1:80 to 1:225. Since my tank holds 85 liters, I stick to 1:85 and buy the 1-liter bottles of oil for the convenience factor.

hmmm...oil mix into a 4-stroke...

Let's see...
...it will sure hasten an SAI problem
...one still needs oil on the bottom end
...would love to see your spark plugs

that is one way to cover up a valve guide problem..."ohhh it just smokes like that cause I use an 85:1 mixture"....
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Yes, I am kidding. I thought I would add a little humor, since I find that "up to 1.5L per 1000 km" is already quite humorous. Seriously - I can't believe Porsche is for real about this level of oil consumption...
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Originally Posted by RallyJon
Black smoke is also rich mixture
Errr, I was also joking (about the electrical fire....)
Boy...Tough crowd.
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You are both forgiven but just remember:
Worn valve guides is not a joking matter!
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I'm not going to joke about race, religion, disfigurement, deformity, disease, the death penalty or abortion. But I will joke about cars!
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Originally Posted by murphyslaw1978
Yes, I am kidding. I thought I would add a little humor, since I find that "up to 1.5L per 1000 km" is already quite humorous. Seriously - I can't believe Porsche is for real about this level of oil consumption...
I knew that. You are from Chicago!


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