OT: Wisdom vs. insanity of 86 XJS
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I have been offered, at virtually no cost to me, a 1986 Jaguar XJS coupe with ~78K miles on it. It is "barn-fresh" with a need for major restoration. For most of it's life it was driven and maintained well (by a little old lady - no joke), but it has been sitting, undriven, for at least 4 years, unprotected in a back-yard (Saint Louis weather - so the rust mites are already at work).
I would be interested in and able to do (I think) most to all of the disassembly, doing most to all of the interior work, and farming out the body, engine, tranny, suspension, exhaust, and electrical work.
I would not be planning on a Concours rebuild, but a rebuild using upgraded (otherwise known as working) parts, including a manual shifter. Not planning on a franken-Jag with a Chevy engine, but using the existing (possibly rebuilt) V12 with new improved headers, lift-gates, and air induction.
Am I looking at more of a headache/ money-pit than this car is worth? Or, would I end up (after much labor and $$) with an incredibly powerful luxury coupe?
Any input is valuable and appreciated.
I would be interested in and able to do (I think) most to all of the disassembly, doing most to all of the interior work, and farming out the body, engine, tranny, suspension, exhaust, and electrical work.
I would not be planning on a Concours rebuild, but a rebuild using upgraded (otherwise known as working) parts, including a manual shifter. Not planning on a franken-Jag with a Chevy engine, but using the existing (possibly rebuilt) V12 with new improved headers, lift-gates, and air induction.
Am I looking at more of a headache/ money-pit than this car is worth? Or, would I end up (after much labor and $$) with an incredibly powerful luxury coupe?
Any input is valuable and appreciated.
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Take it, part it out, and spend the money on your 993.
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It would be a shame to invest so much time and money in a car that was a steaming pile when new, and hasn't improved any with age. I agree with the above... if you're anxious to do a restoration project, start with a more collectable, interesting car.
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One piece of advice: drive one before you start anything. The XJS was my second dream car (after the 911) until I actually drove one. Shocking! On top, I once spoke to an old Jag specialist in Houston who told me "you really have to love this car, or to be British, to forgive the V12 multiple failures". I think he said it all... Stay away!
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Wow! Thanks for saving me a ton of money that can now go into my 993!
And, what was that about parting the XJS out? How easy (other than eBay) is it to sell these parts? What is worth anything if they are such piles of British excrement? Would it be worth the skinned knuckles to pull parts off? Are we talking new floormats worth? New suspension worth? or even a set of Gemballa Competition's worth?
No - never driven an XJS - I was hoping with increased air induction, a six speed manual tranny, and a gearing similar to what A-M is linking to the Cosworth V12, I'd have some ability to haul 4000+lbs around. How bad are they?
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And, what was that about parting the XJS out? How easy (other than eBay) is it to sell these parts? What is worth anything if they are such piles of British excrement? Would it be worth the skinned knuckles to pull parts off? Are we talking new floormats worth? New suspension worth? or even a set of Gemballa Competition's worth?
No - never driven an XJS - I was hoping with increased air induction, a six speed manual tranny, and a gearing similar to what A-M is linking to the Cosworth V12, I'd have some ability to haul 4000+lbs around. How bad are they?
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I would part it out by taking the whole thing and putting it on ebay starting at a dollar and they have to pick it up. I have used this approach a couple of times and somebody paid me to take something away.
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My mother had one of these. she didn't have a lot of problems with it but then she put very few miles on it - less than 20k in 10 yrs. The first time I drove it, my impression was that it was a British Camaro. Prince of Darkness indeed.