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Old 01-13-2020, 03:42 PM
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^^^ Food for thought: Looking at the side view (2nd pic), I'd consider driving the car further forward for better balance on the lift. The COG is a little forward of the door handle, which should probably be positioned over the center of the lift.
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Originally Posted by Todynot
^^^ Food for thought: Looking at the side view (2nd pic), I'd consider driving the car further forward for better balance on the lift. The COG is a little forward of the door handle, which should probably be positioned over the center of the lift.
Probably correct^, but not sure if you missed the part about clearance for trans.
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If I'm leaving my 964 C4 on the lift for an extended period, I strap the front of the car to the lift, just in case.
Old 01-13-2020, 05:54 PM
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Originally Posted by LimeyBoy
Probably correct^, but not sure if you missed the part about clearance for trans.
Keep us posted on the progress. I am just figuring out the poistioning as well as I need to do an engine and trans drop and would prefer not to modify the lift since I would like to use for other cars like my 1st gen Cayenne (heavy beast).

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Old 01-13-2020, 06:09 PM
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Originally Posted by 95_993
Keep us posted on the progress. I am just figuring our the poistioning as well as I need to do an engine and trans drop and would prefer not to modify the lift since I would like to use for other cars like my 1st gen Cayenne (heavy beast).
You are braver than I am, I look at my '05 Cayenne S 'the Beast' and my lift, then think no way. I do my oil changes by running the front onto boards to get the clearance.

FYI: The OPC has called my Cayenne S in for a factory recall for a possible impaired connection between the selector lever and transmission which could allow the car to roll in Park if the parking brake is not fully applied. This happened to me when I had the car up on the factory jack. Scary stuff.
Old 01-13-2020, 07:06 PM
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Originally Posted by John McM
If I'm leaving my 964 C4 on the lift for an extended period, I strap the front of the car to the lift, just in case.
Good idea. I'll also lower it after finishing each day.

Originally Posted by 95_993
Keep us posted on the progress.
Will do 👍
Old 01-13-2020, 07:43 PM
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Originally Posted by LimeyBoy
Good idea. I'll also lower it after finishing each day
As long as the safety locks are in place, then it's fine to leave it up. If I know the car will be up for a while I remove the wheels to keep stress off the struts which are otherwise fully extended with a lot of wheel weight pulling on them.
Old 01-13-2020, 09:34 PM
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Originally Posted by John McM
You are braver than I am, I look at my '05 Cayenne S 'the Beast' and my lift, then think no way. I do my oil changes by running the front onto boards to get the clearance.

FYI: The OPC has called my Cayenne S in for a factory recall for a possible impaired connection between the selector lever and transmission which could allow the car to roll in Park if the parking brake is not fully applied. This happened to me when I had the car up on the factory jack. Scary stuff.
oil changes on the pig are easy for me by simply utilizing good old fashion drive on ramps. The lift is for wheel swaps, other basic maintenance, and detailing.
Old 01-14-2020, 12:51 AM
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Originally Posted by Magdaddy
oil changes on the pig are easy for me by simply utilizing good old fashion drive on ramps. The lift is for wheel swaps, other basic maintenance, and detailing.
Best thing about the Cayenne is you can just set the air suspension to the highest setting and you can change the oil without needing to lift it.
Old 01-15-2020, 12:49 AM
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Originally Posted by LimeyBoy
Probably correct^, but not sure if you missed the part about clearance for trans.
Yeah, just stop. The CG of your car is not even over the lift much less centered on it. Sheesh.
Old 01-15-2020, 09:56 AM
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Originally Posted by gtroth
The CG of your car is not even over the lift much less centered on it
The CG is over the lift. Way off center but I have eyes and saw that. As is often the case online, you threw a comment out without verifying it - I confirmed the Todynot mentioned CG location with calcs using my corner balance weights (F:1299lbs, R: 2003lbs) and wheelbase length (89.45") and the CG is as below: 35" in front of the rear wheel center. Right now it is stable and as I mentioned originally, I will monitor as the work progresses.

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This discussion/debate over CoG is well worth having given the 911s weight distribution. I’m going to calculate it for each of my cars to ensure I’m operating my lift safely. It may mean taking extra safety precautions like ensuring my gas tank is full.

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Originally Posted by LimeyBoy
The CG is over the lift. Way off center but I have eyes and saw that. As is often the case online, you threw a comment out without verifying it - I confirmed the Todynot mentioned CG location with calcs using my corner balance weights (F:1299lbs, R: 2003lbs) and wheelbase length (89.45") and the CG is as below: 35" in front of the rear wheel center. Right now it is stable and as I mentioned originally, I will monitor as the work progresses.
CG is usually considered to be the front of the door handle. But you may have an inch or so. You might like thread for some discussion:

https://rennlist.com/forums/993-foru...ft-points.html

Also, those little tabs at ends of the lift’s deck are to prevent you from hanging the arms off of the ends like you are doing.

Most of us are not so cavalier about lift safety, but whatever.
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Ummmm, utilizing the four factory lift points as the above picture clearly shows...is somehow dangerous?

Not seeing it, sorry.
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Old 01-27-2020, 09:42 AM
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Thanks to everyone's input into how they're using their lifts. I spent some time over the past couple weeks experimenting with my different cars on the lift and determined that for my use, making the modification was going to be easier in the long run than turning the lift around every time I want to throw one of my other cars up in the air.

As others have noted, the modification is pretty easy and cost about $30 and a little over an hour in time. Technically, rotating the lift is a very viable optionas others have shared, but for me, it makes it a little easier now for me to position the 993 and also use on our Mercedes, etc.





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