CarmG993

i think the wide bodies are faster (did I say that )

kdurg

ROFLMAO. Fabulous......

fast_freddy

Understeer/oversteer is all about throttle control and little more than that. Watch Mark Webber on TopGear driving that POS that Celebs drive on their track.Jeremy Clarkson said, "You didn't have understeer through the hammerhead", to which Mark Webber replied "thats because I know how to control the throttle".

Devinwhite

I just purchased my first Porsche. 1996 993 C4S. When I took it for the PPI the
Porsche guy informed me the Viscous Coupling i.e. coupling that engages power to the front two axels was disconnected, thus the car drives like a C2S but is really a C4S. The car was purchesed out of Seattle and the owner had it disconnected because of the stop and go traffic as well as the "tracking" on the roads. He was upfront with me. Anyway I also took it to Rennsport
http://www.rennsportsystems.com (hight performance Porsche Shop) after the purchase to discuss. Apparently it dosn't hurt the car to drive it this way and can actually be better handling in "everyday" dry driving. He suggested leaving it that way unless I wanted the 4S "feel".

Hope that help

Devinwhite

I just purchased my first Porsche. 1996 993 C4S. When I took it for the PPI the
Porsche guy informed me the Viscous Coupling i.e. coupling that engages power to the front two axels was disconnected, thus the car drives like a C2S but is really a C4S. The car was purchesed out of Seattle and the owner had it disconnected because of the stop and go traffic as well as the "tracking" on the roads. He was upfront with me. Anyway I also took it to Rennsport
http://www.rennsportsystems.com (hight performance Porsche Shop) after the purchase to discuss. Apparently it dosn't hurt the car to drive it this way and can actually be better handling in "everyday" dry driving. He suggested leaving it that way unless I wanted the 4S "feel".

Hope that help

JM993

I'll put myself out there.

The negatives I've perceived about the C4, C4S and Turbo are the steering, clutch and shifter feel. They are all either too light and/or do not provide enough feel. IMHO, the C2 just provides more feedback and thus feels nicer.

That said, I've wouldn't kick any of there cars out of bed. They're all great!

mborkow

i am not sure how you lump the clutch of the TT, C4 and C4S together; the clutch feel of the turbo is completely different than the C4 (and i assume the C4S, though i have never driven a C4S).

robroy72

I've driven all three... C4/C4S are similar, TT is completely different, doesn't require as much force to operate it.

Svaha

Clutch job on a C4 is nearly $1k more, all labor...

JM993

That's correct. I've driven all three and the feedback is less than the feedback provided by a C2. All great cars, just like the feel of the C2 more.

Still, I'd trade my car for the right turbo.......

Caveman

So with that soft clutch the Turbo is the girly option?

speed12sil

You're kidding right? Because I thought the WB creates more drag at high speed so top speed is actually lower than that of the NB.

Jean

I heard that the 993 C4 have 330Hp but the Porsche factory never recognized it. It is proven by the acceleration tests in some magazines. The C2 has the advantage of having a shorter gearbox by a couple of inches, which gives it better neutral handling. So it's somewhat a wash.

Droops83

HAHA. The 993tt uses the power steering pump to assist in clutch operation, like the hydroboost some 80s BMWs used for the brakes. Therefore, the clutch feels really light and rather vague while driving it. The shifter does feel vague on the TT for some reason too. If you sit in one and pump the clutch pedal a bunch while the car is switched off, bleeding off all the pressure in the accumulator, you will get a feel for how heavy the clutch would be w/out this system. The regular C4 does not have this, and the shifter feels a bit more precise too. The regular C4 does, however, use an electric pump/accumulator system to boost the brakes in lieu of the conventional vacuum booster of the C2.

As far as handling differences, Porsche vastly improved the AWD system for the 993 vs the 964. You have to push the car pretty damn hard to feel the difference between it and the C2. On the 964 you can feel the extra understeer pretty easily. I'd say for most drivers the C4 would be a safer option, although I would personally take the C2

Thaddeus

I like my 95 C4. I like being able to corner in the rain. I will like being able to drive a Porsche in January in Minnesota. Enough said.