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What makes this whole matter look worse is,
Even if you had not agreed to the refund. If he was going to cancel the transaction with his credit card company, he should have AT LEAST sent you back the parts.
It does not appear that he has done so. So, he took his money back and kept the parts..
Seems like a bag of scum to me.
Even if you had not agreed to the refund. If he was going to cancel the transaction with his credit card company, he should have AT LEAST sent you back the parts.
It does not appear that he has done so. So, he took his money back and kept the parts..
Seems like a bag of scum to me.
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Trying to understand here:
Have you received $2000 from him (via Paypal)? Is that the transaction he challenged and reversed?
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Simon still has the shocks and didn't pay for them
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Michael,
Very sorry to hear about this, I am very surprise as I've traded emails with Simon in the past when he came through Los Angeles. I was unable to meet with him but I think that Edward went out to LAX and met with him. This doesn't sound like him at all... hope that Simon will contact you and sort this out.
Good Luck.
Simon,
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Very sorry to hear about this, I am very surprise as I've traded emails with Simon in the past when he came through Los Angeles. I was unable to meet with him but I think that Edward went out to LAX and met with him. This doesn't sound like him at all... hope that Simon will contact you and sort this out.
Good Luck.
Simon,
Would you like to comment on this matter, thanks.
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B-Line: I told him before I sent them to him that they were crazy stiff and that he may not like them. He told me he didn't care. I think he put them on, found out how stiff they really were and then wanted to send them back. No he didn't send them back. I agree, He could have at LEAST contacted me and sent them back. Oh yeah, his reasoning was that it was an unauthorized payment. CROOK!
small: Yes he made his payment through paypal and then disputed it with his credit card company and paypal gave me a -$2,000 balance that they want to collect on because they had to pay the credit card company the $2,000.
Airkuul: I too was supposed to meet up with him when he arrived in L.A. a few months back. He claimed to me that I sold him a product that was not what I described to him. I mean come on man, why would I want to meet up with the guy after he took delivery if that was true, I mean he bought used suspension for crying out loud, which literally only had like 1500 miles on them. He is a CROOK! He didn't even bother to contact me and send the suspension back so I could at least recover what I am going to have to pay paypal.
small: Yes he made his payment through paypal and then disputed it with his credit card company and paypal gave me a -$2,000 balance that they want to collect on because they had to pay the credit card company the $2,000.
Airkuul: I too was supposed to meet up with him when he arrived in L.A. a few months back. He claimed to me that I sold him a product that was not what I described to him. I mean come on man, why would I want to meet up with the guy after he took delivery if that was true, I mean he bought used suspension for crying out loud, which literally only had like 1500 miles on them. He is a CROOK! He didn't even bother to contact me and send the suspension back so I could at least recover what I am going to have to pay paypal.
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Surely there must be some Aussie RL'er who can pay this crook a visit, maybe inflict some nightstick rash on him. I'd love to do some local wet work on fraudsters.
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Michael -
I am no expert, but I do not think you can just "dispute" a charge with your credit card company. At least, Visa, in my experience. There are only certain things for which they will reverse a charge. I know that one thing is non-delivery. Certainly not the quality of the merchandise. He may have told the credit card company some story that you can prove otherwise. I don't know if Paypal will put you in touch with his credit card company's dispute resolution department, but you might try asking.
I recently had a dispute with a vendor and it took MONTHS to resolve. So I am surprised they were able to reach a determination so quickly. Hope it works out for you. As with the others, I consider a Rennlist brother above reproach and have sent several items before receiving a check. This stinks.
Greg H.
I am no expert, but I do not think you can just "dispute" a charge with your credit card company. At least, Visa, in my experience. There are only certain things for which they will reverse a charge. I know that one thing is non-delivery. Certainly not the quality of the merchandise. He may have told the credit card company some story that you can prove otherwise. I don't know if Paypal will put you in touch with his credit card company's dispute resolution department, but you might try asking.
I recently had a dispute with a vendor and it took MONTHS to resolve. So I am surprised they were able to reach a determination so quickly. Hope it works out for you. As with the others, I consider a Rennlist brother above reproach and have sent several items before receiving a check. This stinks.
Greg H.
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Michael you should have traded them to me way back then.....Isn't this the same guy who was looking/asking for someone to buy him parts in the US because of some restriction on buying directly from AU?
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hi, sorry to hear about your situation, but i have a good advice for you, as far a getting your money back, just forget about it, now first thing you have to do is close the account (bank or credit card) that you provided paypal. they dont have your social, so they will not send it to collections, plus they are already insured . you may get emails from them or even phone calls but thats as far as they will go.
next plan a nice vacation to australia with baseball bat in your luggage , and pay him a visit supranos style. (just kidding)
good luck
peop
next plan a nice vacation to australia with baseball bat in your luggage , and pay him a visit supranos style. (just kidding)
good luck
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I too have sent items prior to receiving payment... drives my wife (an attorney) nuts. "How can you trust these people... you don't even know them!" Just always "felt" like the right thing to do.
It's a bummer, Michael... if you want to pursue this from a legal angle I can ask my better half if she can suggest someone. Good luck.
BTW, looks like Simon hasn't posted here since June... maybe he just bailed.
It's a bummer, Michael... if you want to pursue this from a legal angle I can ask my better half if she can suggest someone. Good luck.
BTW, looks like Simon hasn't posted here since June... maybe he just bailed.
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Boost Crazy RL Profile shows that he's visited the site as of Sept 20. He's still around. I'd like curious to hear his side of the story. Hopefully, this will get straighten out!
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Originally Posted by Fill
That does SUX!
I have sent everything I have ever sold on RL before I got payment!...
I have sent everything I have ever sold on RL before I got payment!...
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If his dispute really was filed as an "unauthorized charge" then IMHO that's fraud and serious sh*t w/ the credit company can happen - and in any case, how can you have an "unauthorized" PayPal payment unless someone hacks into the account?. If you have proof of delivery, the email correspondences between both of you, and the Paypal notification that you received payment and what that payment was for that certainly strengthens the case of him committing fraud not to you, but with the credit card company. Now, if he had instead claimed to PayPal and the credit card company that the goods were defective, etc he might have a stronger case for reversing the charge.