OT: Shelby Mustang 427 side-oiler
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Anyone know anything about these? I am searching, but I heard today of an original, pristine, unmolested one, 32k miles, nearby....
Anyone ever driven one? Same engine as the old racing Cobras.
Anyone ever driven one? Same engine as the old racing Cobras.
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You may know more about these cars than me but I don't recall there being a Shelby Mustang with a 427. The early Shelby's (65, 66) had 289's. In later years, there was the Cobrajet with a 428, the Boss 429, etc. What year is the Mustang? If it is a Shelby with a 427, I'm guessing it is pretty rare (if it is original).
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You may know more about these cars than me but I don't recall there being a Shelby Mustang with a 427. The early Shelby's (65, 66) had 289's. In later years, there was the Cobrajet with a 428, the Boss 429, etc. What year is the Mustang? If it is a Shelby with a 427, I'm guessing it is pretty rare (if it is original).
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As I recall, the 427 was put in a very rare few Shelby Mustangs before the 428 was ready for production. This car is much more rare than the 428, and AFIF, a stronger engine. Wow, if you see this car, post pics, please! I have crates of muscle-car lit in the attic, and I may have to pull some of it out... my last Mustang was a 64 1/2 D-code 289 convertible ordered from the factory for street racing. It was literally found in a barn in southern Washington state covered with Mt. St. Helens ash. Keep us posted on your find.
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As I recall, the 427 was put in a very rare few Shelby Mustangs before the 428 was ready for production. This car is much more rare than the 428, and AFIF, a stronger engine. Wow, if you see this car, post pics, please! I have crates of muscle-car lit in the attic, and I may have to pull some of it out... my last Mustang was a 64 1/2 D-code 289 convertible ordered from the factory for street racing. It was literally found in a barn in southern Washington state covered with Mt. St. Helens ash. Keep us posted on your find.
The install of the 427 into the Shelby was only a rumor. i have never seen one, now, or then. This engine went in the Shelby Cobra, one of which I used to own.
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427 Cobra. Dream car to many (myself included). I think I've heard that there are very few real ones left? Do you know that to be true?
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427 Cobra. Dream car to many (myself included). I think I've heard that there are very few real ones left? Do you know that to be true?
Thanks,
chuck
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427 Cobra. Dream car to many (myself included). I think I've heard that there are very few real ones left? Do you know that to be true?
Thanks,
chuck
427 Cobra. Dream car to many (myself included). I think I've heard that there are very few real ones left? Do you know that to be true?
Thanks,
chuck
There are probably more kit cars out there now than there were originals back in the 60's. Although it is a popular car now, back then, they had a hard time selling. It would be worth some big bucks if I had it now.
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There are still a few original big block AC Cobras left around. There was one here at an auction last year(It didn't sell) and I saw another at the Cobra place at Willow Springs Raceway recently. Such an awesome car, and the first to do the 0 -100- 0 test that set the standard for 35 plus years. 12.XX seconds.
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I think TomF is correct, and, of course, if I do see it I will have my camera. I will surely post!
Been reading - one source says 50 such cars were made witht he 427, before the more common and less powerful 428 became the standard. Very rare.
Been reading - one source says 50 such cars were made witht he 427, before the more common and less powerful 428 became the standard. Very rare.
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I have seen a 427 Shelby 500, 1967 . I am told very few and they all had the fog lamps in the middle which made the car overheat because it blocked the radiator. (later moved apart). If this is one of those cars it has to be worth north of 100K.
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Not sure about this, but I seem to recall there being two or three variations of the 427... one a side oiler for competition use, and two others that were not (different oiling design). Like Tom F. I do recall hearing about 427's being put into early production GT 500 Shelby Mustangs but I thought that they were the non side oiler versions...
By the way, side oilers do have their own idiosyncracies and issues, and I seem to recall the 428 was actually considered the stronger engine with less issues for the street, but it was heavier with less performance potential on the track. I'm also willing to bet that at some point someone has put a side oiler into a Shelby Mustang for racing, but the real money maker will be if its a documented factory car. I must admit the only 427 SO Shelby Mustang that I have ever heard of is a prototype that Shelby built to prove the big block concept would work in the Mustang for 1967 (it was to be known as the GT500).
Either way, if the car exists with a side oiler and its documented as factory authentic, it will not be cheap thats for sure... and I would love to have it... if I only could afford it! ;-)
Cheers;
Eric
P.S. Please that note that I have no facts at this time to back any of this up, but just thought I would pass this on for interests sake and discussion purposes.. I'll take a look through my Shelby registry and see what I can find...
By the way, side oilers do have their own idiosyncracies and issues, and I seem to recall the 428 was actually considered the stronger engine with less issues for the street, but it was heavier with less performance potential on the track. I'm also willing to bet that at some point someone has put a side oiler into a Shelby Mustang for racing, but the real money maker will be if its a documented factory car. I must admit the only 427 SO Shelby Mustang that I have ever heard of is a prototype that Shelby built to prove the big block concept would work in the Mustang for 1967 (it was to be known as the GT500).
Either way, if the car exists with a side oiler and its documented as factory authentic, it will not be cheap thats for sure... and I would love to have it... if I only could afford it! ;-)
Cheers;
Eric
P.S. Please that note that I have no facts at this time to back any of this up, but just thought I would pass this on for interests sake and discussion purposes.. I'll take a look through my Shelby registry and see what I can find...