Notices
993 Forum 1995-1998

Check engine light????

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Apr 10, 2005 | 09:30 PM
  #1  
dhicks's Avatar
dhicks
Thread Starter
Drifting
 
Joined: Oct 2004
Posts: 2,483
Likes: 0
From: Rockville, MD
Default Check engine light????

Driving my car, all is fine, the suddenly "check engine" light comes on, all looks ok with temp, oil pressure, etc from dash, pull over open engine cover, all appears fine in there, no smell, all belts intact, in fact EVERYTHING appears ok....I am taking it to mechanic on tuesday so that he can hook up to the brain and see whats wrong...anybody else know what this could be?
Reply
Old Apr 10, 2005 | 10:09 PM
  #2  
Carrera Mike's Avatar
Carrera Mike
Addict
Lifetime Rennlist
Member
 
Joined: Jul 2003
Posts: 3,773
Likes: 18
From: Right Coast
Default

Go to Auto Zone. They offer free OBD II scan. I know some codes are different when read with PST II tool, but if you read P-0410 which is the Secondary Air Injection. 993s are plague with it. I bought my own scanner for $99 instead of paying the dealer $75 a pop.

SAI is very well discussed here if you do the search. Here are some threads links
https://rennlist.com/forums/search.php?searchid=345571
Reply
Old Apr 10, 2005 | 11:07 PM
  #3  
kkim's Avatar
kkim
Addict
Rennlist Member

 
Joined: Nov 2003
Posts: 3,530
Likes: 3
From: Kauai, Hawaii
Default

I agree w/ Mike. Go buy yourself a OBD2 reader that can also erase the code. Read the code, reset it and if it comes back, see if it's the same one. I bought one for $99, but have seen them recently on sale at Checkers for less. Good tool to have no matter what ODB2 car you own.

Saves you the time and hassle of having to go to the dealer.
Reply
Old May 8, 2005 | 08:34 AM
  #4  
dhicks's Avatar
dhicks
Thread Starter
Drifting
 
Joined: Oct 2004
Posts: 2,483
Likes: 0
From: Rockville, MD
Default

My CEL is now a thing of the past......SAI check valve replaced...injector and valve cleaner in gas.......problem solved....phew that was pleasing
Reply
Old May 8, 2005 | 11:01 AM
  #5  
David 23's Avatar
David 23
Burning Brakes
20 Year Member
 
Joined: Mar 2003
Posts: 936
Likes: 4
From: San Pedro, CA
Default

Ok, this may be a stupid question, but here goes. Where is the check valve, and how difficult was the replacement? Time/cost?. Did you have to go thru the SAI port clean out procedure shown on the P-car site?
Reply
Old May 8, 2005 | 11:48 AM
  #6  
Rob Kwate's Avatar
Rob Kwate
Rennlist Member
 
Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 159
Likes: 4
From: Troy, Idaho
Default

David:

The clean out procedure I posted on the P-car site shows the location and how to replace the check valve. No, you don't have to clean the ports to replace the check valve. I would guess that doing the check valve alone would take 1-2 hours. The hardest part is probably making the wrench necessary to remove the valve. Look closely at the DIY on the P-car site, and then if you have any specific questions, we can answer those. As far as the cost goes, I have no idea what a shop would charge, but the valve itself was about $55 from Sunset Porsche.

Thanks, Rob.
Reply
Old May 8, 2005 | 01:14 PM
  #7  
Greg Bell's Avatar
Greg Bell
Rennlist Member
20 Year Member
 
Joined: Jul 2002
Posts: 547
Likes: 63
From: North Queensland
Default

I really feel for you guys in the US with all the 'extra' problems you have with your California compliant cars.
Reply
Old May 8, 2005 | 04:04 PM
  #8  
Mike J's Avatar
Mike J
Addict
Lifetime Rennlist
Member
20 Year Member
 
Joined: May 2001
Posts: 8,365
Likes: 78
From: Vancouver, BC
Default

And us in Canada too...I am fighting the CEL problem now. But I think its not related directly the SAI but the valve guides...which is a world-wide problem wth the 993's. This really peeves me off that a car with 75,000 miles needs several thousand dollars of engine work, especially with what these car cost when new!


Cheers,

Mike
Reply
Old Dec 13, 2010 | 10:12 PM
  #9  
Ed 40Jahre's Avatar
Ed 40Jahre
Intermediate
 
Joined: Nov 2010
Posts: 41
Likes: 0
From: Alta Loma, CA
Default

Was talking with the service tec at Walter's Porsche Dealership (Riverside,CA), he mentioned something about the check engine light "nothing to worry about unless it starts flashing".
Mine came on last Friday, drove it home and all seems well, no loss of power, oil level ok, no over heating....etc.
Can anyone confirm that statement?
OR is it just time for a service; (100750 miles)?

Thanks in advance
Ed
Reply
Old Dec 13, 2010 | 11:19 PM
  #10  
ryguy993's Avatar
ryguy993
Racer
 
Joined: Mar 2010
Posts: 338
Likes: 0
From: West Warwick, R.I.
Default

Mine came on afew weeks ago and I brought it to my independant shop. I was told that the car was due for its 60K service and new spark plugs and wires. I guess the CEL code was for a misfire in cylinder #4. I haven't driven the car since then because I was tld that they run a little on the rich side when the CEL comes on and that can damage the catalytic converters. It goes in the first week in January for the 60K service and the routine maintenence.
Reply
Old Dec 14, 2010 | 03:06 AM
  #11  
95C4VanIsle's Avatar
95C4VanIsle
Three Wheelin'
 
Joined: Mar 2007
Posts: 1,250
Likes: 1
From: Vancouver Island
Default

Originally Posted by Ed 40Jahre
Was talking with the service tec at Walter's Porsche Dealership (Riverside,CA), he mentioned something about the check engine light "nothing to worry about unless it starts flashing".
Mine came on last Friday, drove it home and all seems well, no loss of power, oil level ok, no over heating....etc.
Can anyone confirm that statement?
OR is it just time for a service; (100750 miles)?

Thanks in advance
Ed
I had a CEL three years ago (brief, and no flashing CEL) and it was caused by a faulty O2 sensor. Similar situation as yours with no loss of power, etc.

My car is a 95 (OBD 1). I was visiting MikeJ, a well respected member of this forum, to do some other work on the car and we (he) replaced the O2 sensor. All has been well since then.

Hopefully your problem would be as easy to correct.
Reply
Old Dec 14, 2010 | 07:40 AM
  #12  
Falcondrivr's Avatar
Falcondrivr
Race Car
15 Year Member
 
Joined: Apr 2007
Posts: 3,931
Likes: 72
From: Tampa, FL
Default

Does anyone have a list of the items monitored by the OBD1 ecu that will set off the light? I think I remember that there are 13 parameters or something...
Reply
Old Dec 14, 2010 | 10:29 AM
  #13  
Ed Burdell's Avatar
Ed Burdell
Rennlist Member
 
Joined: May 2006
Posts: 4,919
Likes: 7
From: Marietta, Ga
Default

I've had intermittent CELs since I bought the car close to five years ago. It has one now, as a matter of fact. For me, it's caused when I have to idle immediately after leaving my driveway (for oncoming traffic, say). So far, it's cleared itself every time, passes emissions with no issue, doesn't smoke, and consumes oil at about 1 qt / 2500 miles - and that coming from a leaking timing chain cover gasket. So I would say a CEL alone does not necessarily imply a top end rebuild.
Reply
Old Dec 14, 2010 | 10:31 AM
  #14  
g_murray's Avatar
g_murray
Three Wheelin'
 
Joined: Aug 2005
Posts: 1,305
Likes: 3
From: Long Island, NY
Default

A F-L-A-S-H-I-N-G CEL light is usually triggered by an engine misfire. The FLASHING is literally to 'grab' your attention - as this is 'serious' and pretty much seals the deal that you need to STOP and SHUT THE ENGINE DOWN.

When the CEL comes on - and stays on - you CAN drive it. You have a choice of:

i) Letting the ECU 'solve the problem all by its lonesome' (which it will do if it 'senses' that the condition(s) that triggered the 'error' do NOT occur over several subsequent drive cycles). READ: The CEL will switch off all by itself.
ii) Having the code read (OBD 'reader') and the condition 'cleared'. This, as we all know, will RESET all those pesky 'readiness monitors' as well as turning the CEL light off.

It REALLY is worth 'investing' in a decent OBD code reader so that YOU can decide whether this is a 'transient error' (e.g. loose gas cap) or something that infers 'maintenance required'.

Gerry
Reply
Old Dec 14, 2010 | 11:34 AM
  #15  
mcipseric's Avatar
mcipseric
Rennlist Member
15 Year Member
 
Joined: Nov 2009
Posts: 1,706
Likes: 21
From: Orange County, CA
Default

my non-flashing CEL misfire issue is due to a loose dual mass flywheel. You can hear some "chatter" when you turn the car off. good excuse for a lightweight flywheel upgrade $$$
Reply




All times are GMT -3. The time now is 08:24 PM.