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Old 09-04-2001, 02:02 PM
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Question "Sticky" Clutch pedal

Looking for some help with this - I have a 95 C2 w/ just over 40K. I am experiencing a sort of "sticky" feeling clutch pedal - when i depress the clutch during driving, I often find I can pull the pedal out another 1/2 inch or so - as if the pedal does not fully release to it's starting position. I read something somewhere on how to solve this, maybe Robin's page? My concern is that this condidtion is wearing the clutch prematurely, and also curious the root of this - some have suggested to change master and slave cyls - they have both been bled, maybe 1000 miles ago. Anyone else have this problem?
Old 09-04-2001, 02:47 PM
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Common problem with the 993s. You need to replace your clutch slave cylinder.

To verify tha tis the issue, depress your clutch pedal while the engine is not running and see if you hear a kind of steel cable stretching sound coming from the middle of the car and also you can feel some bumpiness from the clutch pedal itself.
Old 09-04-2001, 03:29 PM
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Robin -

This sounds exactly like what happens with my C4. The clutch works fine but does tend to stick near the top on occassion and makes the noises you describe. Any idea on a cost for this fix?
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The R&R on this particular item is anywhere from $150-$250.
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A veritable bargain in the world of P-cars!
Old 09-04-2001, 05:19 PM
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See Robin's site. Here is the link to that specific problem.
http://p-car.com/diy/pedal/pedal.htm

I would look at this before anything.

Robin:

Correct me if I am wrong, but there are two possible issues. 1) The squeeking; definitely a bad slave cylinder; and 2) Sticky pedal; most likely dust and wear on the sleeve. Fix listed above.

Right?

Thanks.
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Mark,

If one hears the "steel cable stretching" like sound coming from transmission area that is cetainly a sign a bad clutch slave cylinder.
Old 09-05-2001, 10:18 AM
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I have a 1995 993 C2 with 32K and I hear a squeaking type noise when the clutch is depressed with the engine turned off. I assume that this is caused by the dreaded clutch slave cylinder going bad. I have a few questions:
1. What are the consequences of a bad clutch slave cylinder? Will I eventually lose the ability to activate the clutch? Will the clutch wear faster?
2. How long between the onset of the squeak can I expect total failure?
3. Is the $150 - 200 a DIY or independent shop price? (I know that it can't be for dealer sevice!) If it is a DIY estimate, how easy of a fix is it.

Thanks.
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Jes,
Here are some answers

(1). If the problem is left unattended eventually you will have a difficult time shifting into reverse and eventurally you will put a lot of wear on your syncros.

(2). That all depends on clutch usuage, mileage would not be a good factor to use to determine a total failure. It may not completely fail, but just not functioning as it should, which will cause other parts of the transmission to wear.

(3). The local Porsche dealer here charged me $250 total to replace that part. Which included a flush of the hydraulic system. It is not a very easy DIY, because it is a blind replacement part. I know someone on this board have done it, Derek Royal in FL. He might be able to provide some helpful hints.
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Robin:

Thanks for the info.

Funny thing about this problem is that it only occurs when the car is cold (ie. has sat overnight). Is this consistent with the problems you experienced?

I called my local independent p-car shop and they quoted me $225 - $250 for the replacement.

Jim
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In my car it only happened when it is hot, after I have been stuck in traffic for awhile.

And then evetually it does it hot or cold.
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Originally posted by Mark [Green 95 Cab]:
<STRONG>See Robin's site. Here is the link to that specific problem.
http://p-car.com/diy/pedal/pedal.htm

I would look at this before anything.

Robin:

Correct me if I am wrong, but there are two possible issues. 1) The squeeking; definitely a bad slave cylinder; and 2) Sticky pedal; most likely dust and wear on the sleeve. Fix listed above.

Right?

Thanks.</STRONG>
I have a sticky pedal but not squeeking much. I cleaned the dust followed Robin's DIY. The problem is still there and i just dropped it off to the shop this morning to check the slave cylinder.

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Old 09-05-2001, 08:42 PM
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Just picked up the car. Cost $154 replacing the clutch slave cylynder. Problem is gone.
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Having had the pleasure of spending an entire day learning how to replace the clutch slave cylinder, I think $154 is a heck of a deal. If that price includes the cylinder, I think you should give the mechanic some more money out of sympathy.

Once you know what to expect, it is not that bad. However, the learning part is painful.
Old 09-06-2001, 02:15 PM
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$154 was for everything and i was a little surprised when i saw the bill as i was quoted $190+. It was Randall Aase in Fullerton, CA. The best part is it's 2-3 miles from where i live and Jeff (manager?) seemed to be a very knowledgeabe and nice. I went to Randall because someone mentioned him on the board before. Whoever it was, thank you.

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