incredible prices on 993s
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Originally Posted by MD993
Considering all of the above, I was thinking of selling my '95 993 C2 6sp Polar Silver / Black, Euro bumper, Motorsound, etc. 45k miles, Top condition
how much would you say it is worth ?
I have owned this car since 1997 and I have dealt with all typical 993 problems.
Changed master / slave cylinders, changed kinematic clutch level, replaced wiring harness, etc...
I recently changed all four tires (less than 1000miles) and last week changed rotors and had service (over $ 2K bill).
Thanks for your replies
MD993
how much would you say it is worth ?
I have owned this car since 1997 and I have dealt with all typical 993 problems.
Changed master / slave cylinders, changed kinematic clutch level, replaced wiring harness, etc...
I recently changed all four tires (less than 1000miles) and last week changed rotors and had service (over $ 2K bill).
Thanks for your replies
MD993
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I agree with DC on the price of the Poar Silver 993. Paid the same for my 96 with 37k miles on the clock last year. Car was lightley optioned and had the combination blue and gray interior which i deemed a mark against it.
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Another really good deal!
"1998 Carrera 4 Cabriolet 14,200 miles
Platinum metallic ($2,675 paint to sample option) / full black leather interior, 1 of 142 Carrera 4 made in last of series 993 cabriolets, 6 speed, ABD, motor sound package, HiFi sound package, CD radio, Porsche remote 6 disk CD changer, litronic headlamps, full power seat package, power lumbar seats, heated seats, Porsche windstop defelctor,18 inch Turbo twist rims, chrome exhaust tips, on board computer system, automatic speed control, footwell lighting, infrared alarm. $66,500"
Glad I already bough one!
"1998 Carrera 4 Cabriolet 14,200 miles
Platinum metallic ($2,675 paint to sample option) / full black leather interior, 1 of 142 Carrera 4 made in last of series 993 cabriolets, 6 speed, ABD, motor sound package, HiFi sound package, CD radio, Porsche remote 6 disk CD changer, litronic headlamps, full power seat package, power lumbar seats, heated seats, Porsche windstop defelctor,18 inch Turbo twist rims, chrome exhaust tips, on board computer system, automatic speed control, footwell lighting, infrared alarm. $66,500"
Glad I already bough one!
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I have been looking for a 1998 C2 or 4S all NAs for the last 4 months. What I have found: Typical $55-58k for a nice 20-30k, low mileage, decent optioned, nice car.
60k for low mileage, highly optioned, these car in the hands of private parties do not seem to move well.
I have seen some that I think are Ego priced at 65-70k. Nice cars, but NFW. This unit would have to be out of this world. Why not buy a nice TT for 75K
Don't anyone get their panies in a wad, but I think a good price is between 55-58 tops. Anything over this is for the cars with deviated stiching and belts and, and? For a car like that I would pay the higher prices because they are unique. I have not ran across a NICE car equiped liked that in my travels. I am sending a nice car for PPI this week or next week, if it passes with flying colors I will be the proud owner of a 1998 C2S. Pic to follow!!! Hopefully.
60k for low mileage, highly optioned, these car in the hands of private parties do not seem to move well.
I have seen some that I think are Ego priced at 65-70k. Nice cars, but NFW. This unit would have to be out of this world. Why not buy a nice TT for 75K
Don't anyone get their panies in a wad, but I think a good price is between 55-58 tops. Anything over this is for the cars with deviated stiching and belts and, and? For a car like that I would pay the higher prices because they are unique. I have not ran across a NICE car equiped liked that in my travels. I am sending a nice car for PPI this week or next week, if it passes with flying colors I will be the proud owner of a 1998 C2S. Pic to follow!!! Hopefully.
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http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...490328187&rd=1
This car, which is currently on ebay, had a $50k buy-it-now price the week before, go figure. Supply and demand aside, I don't believe non-turbo 993s should be priced anywhere north of 60k regardless of mileage and condition.
Having said that, if there are suckers out there who is willing to pay those prices, this is a free country and may they get what they pay for.
This car, which is currently on ebay, had a $50k buy-it-now price the week before, go figure. Supply and demand aside, I don't believe non-turbo 993s should be priced anywhere north of 60k regardless of mileage and condition.
Having said that, if there are suckers out there who is willing to pay those prices, this is a free country and may they get what they pay for.
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Hi There,
Our market in NZ is indeed diferent to the US, however 6spd 993 are becoming very sought after here and probably on par with medium mileage 996 6spd (1998-1999 models) for price.
Although I think this phenomenon is now present everywhere in the world I do not agree with some of the statements above.
1998 cars may today command a number of thousands of dollars over a 1996/7 car with identical condition, spec and mileage - but in 10 years that $10k or so difference will be minimal. Same again for 1994 C2 vs 1997 C4S. At the end of the day all 993 6spd in good condition will be rare and people will buy on povendence not year or mileage alone.
Think about this. If you were looking at a 356 would you want an a -b or C as a long termkeeper? Furthermore would it matter if the car was a 1956 or 1957 MY 356 when you can to purchase inn todays market. I suggest it would matter not a bean - the provendence and condition would be more important....
lastly (and this is a VERY biased comment!) - we may actually find that the basic early 993 coupe 2 WD is worth more than the otehrs because of its simplicity and "true to the original formula" stance in 10-15 years time. Of course this is only important today if you car is a keeper - but like the 993RS I think less is more when we talk about older porsches........
My 2 cents...
Macca the Kiwi
Our market in NZ is indeed diferent to the US, however 6spd 993 are becoming very sought after here and probably on par with medium mileage 996 6spd (1998-1999 models) for price.
Although I think this phenomenon is now present everywhere in the world I do not agree with some of the statements above.
1998 cars may today command a number of thousands of dollars over a 1996/7 car with identical condition, spec and mileage - but in 10 years that $10k or so difference will be minimal. Same again for 1994 C2 vs 1997 C4S. At the end of the day all 993 6spd in good condition will be rare and people will buy on povendence not year or mileage alone.
Think about this. If you were looking at a 356 would you want an a -b or C as a long termkeeper? Furthermore would it matter if the car was a 1956 or 1957 MY 356 when you can to purchase inn todays market. I suggest it would matter not a bean - the provendence and condition would be more important....
lastly (and this is a VERY biased comment!) - we may actually find that the basic early 993 coupe 2 WD is worth more than the otehrs because of its simplicity and "true to the original formula" stance in 10-15 years time. Of course this is only important today if you car is a keeper - but like the 993RS I think less is more when we talk about older porsches........
My 2 cents...
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I think that in a few years, a 1998 C2S will be worth more than a 1997 Turbo......and I think that the C2S will wind up being the most sought after variant and this will reflect in the price.
As I have been saying for years, people will ALWAYS pay top dollar for a clean, low mileage 1998 widebody.....always.
As I have been saying for years, people will ALWAYS pay top dollar for a clean, low mileage 1998 widebody.....always.
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MD993 $35k to someone in this forum...
but only if it's perfect. You could probably get more like $31k from the rest of the world as per KBB, but at least perfection wouldn't be assumed for your 10 year old car.
Keep in mind people here have some rather unique perspectives on these cars. My '97 that just turned 40,000 miles would be considered borderline high miles here, ridiculously low miles anywhere else. Another example was the guy who recently posted a poll about the value of a car after it had significant damage repaired. The general view seemed to be the car would not be worthy of buying and/or if purchased should be discounted to the level of a salvage title car.
Keep in mind people here have some rather unique perspectives on these cars. My '97 that just turned 40,000 miles would be considered borderline high miles here, ridiculously low miles anywhere else. Another example was the guy who recently posted a poll about the value of a car after it had significant damage repaired. The general view seemed to be the car would not be worthy of buying and/or if purchased should be discounted to the level of a salvage title car.
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I think the best comment is pricing is subjective to the individual and the car. The problem as i see it, as mentioned before, is getting extremely low mileage owners to part with their cars.
I have a pristine black on black 98 c4s, h&r/bilsteins, sunroof, electrics blah blah,pedals etc with only 14k miles. I have been absolutely AGONISING over selling it. You have no idea...everytime i drive it i change my mind.
Now do i think its worth over $70K?...no way (see RPM Cars)..but do i think there are people out there with silly amounts of money who are used to getting wot they want..you bet.
A driver would buy a 96 ...a collector/concourser..different story altogether.....I got this car last year with only 6k miles and i thgt it was a steal at 60k..there again i knew it would depreciate as much as a '96....i guess it all depends on why your buying...
I have a pristine black on black 98 c4s, h&r/bilsteins, sunroof, electrics blah blah,pedals etc with only 14k miles. I have been absolutely AGONISING over selling it. You have no idea...everytime i drive it i change my mind.
Now do i think its worth over $70K?...no way (see RPM Cars)..but do i think there are people out there with silly amounts of money who are used to getting wot they want..you bet.
A driver would buy a 96 ...a collector/concourser..different story altogether.....I got this car last year with only 6k miles and i thgt it was a steal at 60k..there again i knew it would depreciate as much as a '96....i guess it all depends on why your buying...
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Why do folks think a C2S will be worth more and hold its value better than a Turbo? I know that they were only produced in 97' and 98' and that their production numbers were limited but come on, for the same year and mileage, I'd rather have a Turbo.
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I paid top $$ for mine 2 weeks ago- 98 2C wide-body, 7900miles, 18' wheels, sports suspension, sports seats, motorsound, litronics, carbon/alu shift & brake, heated seats, infrared, hifi sound. I have gladly put nearly 2000 miles on the odo in 2 weeks Other than a couple of rattles (sunroof and dash) and an apparent minor oil leak I have no regrets getting rid of my M3 SMG. My wife would kill me if she knew the price differential. But, I'm a happy man.
Back to the prices- Peter Morgan writes frequently in 911 & Porsche World that similar low mileage late 993 models are 40K and up in England-same as some of the prices here.
Few mods on the way; ROW springs, Euro turn signals, and new tires (still has the original OEM tires with good treads, but will change anyway given the age)....
aof
Back to the prices- Peter Morgan writes frequently in 911 & Porsche World that similar low mileage late 993 models are 40K and up in England-same as some of the prices here.
Few mods on the way; ROW springs, Euro turn signals, and new tires (still has the original OEM tires with good treads, but will change anyway given the age)....
aof
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"Perception is reality."
DC,
Now I understand why you think only '98 C2S' will be sought after. Like all good politicians, if you say it long and loud enough it has to come true. As per your early observation: "As I have been saying for years, people will ALWAYS pay top dollar for a clean, low mileage 1998 widebody.....always."
DC,
Now I understand why you think only '98 C2S' will be sought after. Like all good politicians, if you say it long and loud enough it has to come true. As per your early observation: "As I have been saying for years, people will ALWAYS pay top dollar for a clean, low mileage 1998 widebody.....always."
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Didn't say only that model would be sought after...just that I think it will be the most desireable. My opinions were mirrored by Dave Maynard and others in the business. It would seem that Joseph at RPM and the boys at Premiere would agree as well as they keep raising the bar on the 1998 widebodies.
Do you not agree that people will always pay top dollar for a low mielage, clean, 1998 widebody?
Do you not agree that people make decisions based on their perceptions of the situation?
We are all entitled to our own opinions and we all get to vote with our wallets. While I appreciate your thought that my opinion carries enough weight to alter the market, I can't agree with you. I am only sharing a personal opinion based on tracking sales and dealer listing prices and, as my car is NOT for sale, I have no personal interest in trying to effect pricing.
Do you not agree that people will always pay top dollar for a low mielage, clean, 1998 widebody?
Do you not agree that people make decisions based on their perceptions of the situation?
We are all entitled to our own opinions and we all get to vote with our wallets. While I appreciate your thought that my opinion carries enough weight to alter the market, I can't agree with you. I am only sharing a personal opinion based on tracking sales and dealer listing prices and, as my car is NOT for sale, I have no personal interest in trying to effect pricing.
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I don't think a '98 C2S will be worth more than a similar '97 Turbo. There is no 911 Turbo that is worth less than a corresponding NA 911 in the history of 911s that I can think of, barring the occasional ULTRA rare race version.