Fishey

I was wonder what you guys prefered between the coilovers.

Also what is a good swaybar set to go with the coilovers?

FlyYellow

i seem to like the PSS9 over the H&R coilover. But the sway bars I would go with RS bars.

DJF1

The difference between the classic H&R and the PSS-9 is the adjustability. I went for the H&R almost 3 years ago as there were some fitment issues back then which as far as I understand its not the case anymore. However there have been problems reported with the PSS-9 adjustment *****, I guess fellow listers can report on this. I also liked much better the H&R spring rate difference between the front and rear which is in line with the factory setup where the PSS-9 has almost a 400 pound difference between F/R.
I'm extremely pleased with the H&R coilover setup, no problems to report , however it may be stiff for your taste and this is an individual preference. For me it was money well spent and the handling is absolutely brilliant.
I always aimed the setup to be a compromise between track and street with emphasis on handling rather than comfort. I paired the coilovers with the Euro M030 sway bars as they are cheap compared to the adjustable ones, same thickness in the front and almost as thick in the rear. I did not care for the adjustability , again this setup was not aimed totally for the track. These sways are doing a great job and they are cheap.... Furthermore there are no sway link problems with these bars as they mount with the stock links like the stock sways...

Fishey

Does anyone know the spring rates for the H&R and PSS9?

Also what is the adjustability of the H&R vs Pss9?

FlyYellow

Here is the spring rate info i have:

Here is the information I've been able to gather thus far for spring rates:
US factory M030 150-200 fr 225-275 rr
Eibach 7209 120 fr 200 rr
Weltmeister 180 fr 268 rr
H&R peformance 240-260 fr 280-310 rr
H&R coilovers 290-310 fr 350-370 rr
H&R supercup 310-350 fr 385-435 rr
BIlstein PSS-9 225-250 fr 400-685 rr
"Motorsport" 600 fr 800 rr

CP

Boris,

Interesting spring rate info. I'm a little surprised that the H&Rs only provide a little higher spring rates in the rear (60# max. more than front). With the engine sitting over the rear springs, I thought they would up the rear rates more.

CP

Robert Linton

Although not the carbon fiber/titanium/aluminum front struts or the aluminum/titanium rear dampers of Humpty Dumpty, the attached are for a BMW and a similar design might be made for Porsche cars.

FlyYellow

forget the PSS-9's go for these.

jbuchsba

I bought my car with H&R coilovers installed just a few thousand miles prior to purchase. They are quite nice for road use in the real world....the rear stays planted on rough surfaces. Perhaps that is what H&R were after with the rear numbers.

The height is adjustable (body is threaded).

Good luck!

Chris C.

I loved my H&R coilovers...car handled wonderfully, ride was firm but well damped. If you don't need the adjustability, don't mess with the PSS-9s. (H&Rs can generally be had for less $)

smartass

Hi,

Do you know spring rates for the H&R Clubsport coilovers?

Flying Finn

I have PSS-9 and RS sway bars.

I'm not sure about the shocks (I got PSS-9 because of the adjustment) but definitely get RS sway bars since they're adjustable.

Martin S.

what you really want. I recommend the RS bars. Yes, they are expensive, but they were designed by Porsche and they work. How many complaints have you EVER heard about 993RS bars? I have heard none....I have heard complaints about the other bars, fitment, noise, etc.

PSS 9s are nice. The difference between full soft and full stiff is dramatic.

However if you just want to get in the car and drive, and don't want to mess with the adjustments, the Bilstein HDs are very nice. If you are a racer type, they can be revalved to a sportier setting.

BTW, I have PSS 9s and TRG sway bars with ERP Monoballs. Great set up for the track, a little noisy for the street.

trojanman

what Danny said... I love my H&R coil overs.

911CabSteve

Be careful mixing and matching sways, shocks, and drop-links. I have Bilstein HD/H&R coilovers, adjustable TRG sways, and RS droplinks. LOVE the set up (far superior to stock a on the track), but my wrench had to do a lot of tweaking to get the RS droplinks to fit under the rear TRG sway and still be able to mount the H&R spring above it..

My issue was related to the HD shock and the limited amount of thread on the lower part which affects how high/low the droplink sits. The Bilstein HDs (like most street shocks) do not have threads down to the bottom of the shock. PSS9's do and would not have made fitment a breeze.. In the end, I love my set up and it cost a lot less than the PSS9 set up. Since my car is mostly for the street, it suits me very nicely (stiffer ride than stock, but fine for me personally).