kkswow12

been kicking this around in my head for a while, and a long story short, this would be a one time thing, and, of course, kommt darauf an, that depends. on any number of things, which are obvious....but i thought the 993 forum would be a good place to ask as there seem to be a number of well versed and intelligent guys and gals here and i would work with the 993 cause i love 'em and would in the process get to drive the cars i import.... 997's are a favorite as well, but they are not even close to the 25 year criteria, so...if i am still in shape and involved and the rules haven't changed i will amend my plan....however...

SO, the reason i am here and being long winded about this is because i would love and appreciate any input and insight anyone could offer...and as always, many thanks, it is appreciated very much....i am still in school, life long student...

kkswow12

or would another model...964, G, F...356 even, but i am most familiar with the later ones, 964 and G modell,

Onami

I, for one, have no idea what you are trying to ask?

Twilightblue28A

Makes no sense.

kkswow12

i am wondering what the market is like, are 993's prices softening, are euro models more desirable in usa, sorry, i have always had trouble being succinct...... i have the feeling i could buy a good 993, or 2, drive it/them for a while and sell one on and maybe not lose money in the end...and of course, i know it is like reading tea leaves, flipping coins, just thought i'd ask ..... thanks for listening ....and, sometimes, hard as it may be to believe, english IS my first language

Onami

That’s better! So you want to buy a 993 in Germany, drive it for a while and then sell it to an American. Honestly, don’t waste your money. If that was a workable plan, German dealers would already be doing it at a much lower cost than you. You have to own the car to export it, which means you need to register it in your name and pay taxes etc. A dealer can sell it without those expenses.

I don’t think North Americans view euro cars as ‘more desirable’. Plus, shipping costs from Germany are much higher than across country in general and it takes months for the car to arrive. I just sold a 993 to an American stationed in Germany. The car left my place in Canada on Dec 20, 2023 and arrived in Stuttgart last week. The only way the deal made sense is that US military do not pay duty or taxes on imports.

IainM

True. When I was looking for mine I lost 2 to German buyers coming to the US to get “the good ones”

orangecurry

Except for the G5021 or G6421 'short-ratio' gearbox, and lack of SAI system, Shirley?

Nurburger

Along with the fact that non-sunroof 993's are much more common.

Watson

I would say as long as you are not living in California (due to emissions and OBD compliance), buying a Euro-spec 993 to use it in the USA would make sense for the reasons mentioned above and I would also add ride height which would be lower on Euro spec cars. And you also have front fog lights and adjustable headlights height selector (less blank switches if that matters).
However, if the car had been used during winter in Germany, you will have more chances to have a rusted underbody, rust around the seals and fenders.
And you also need to factor the cost for conversion from Euro spec to US spec (speedometer etc.).

Onami

Don't think it will pass US emissions without the SAI system.

fsa

Re: ROW 993-lights, there's also standard rear fog lights and side marker/directionals. Given the diminutive size of our cars, and all-to-frequent crappy lane changng by others, often with their huge SV's and pickus, we need all the lighting we can get.
Swap Tore's LED's for all halogen factory bulbs.

Matt Andrews

Not sure how many people in this thread have actually done this. I have twice. Bought, shipped, titled, registered both my 964RS and 993RS.

You don't have to be buying a RS for this to be worthwhile, but you do need to be buying a really nice, rare spec car for it to make sense. Its going to cost you ~$7k + ~3% import tax, plus whatever you will pay to convert your dollars to euro or pounds, to get the car to a port in the US if you use a shared container. costs getting it to the port and europe and from the port to your home are additional. The trick is going to be ensuring you know what you are getting. Salt kills these cars. top side shiney pictures hide horror stories. Odometer rollbacks appear common. So is case # restamping. And you can fly to inspect yourself, find someone you trust to inspect, or take a risk. And then realize you are transacting overseas - sending a lot of money to a 3rd party. So if you do all of these things successfully, yes, the car can be worth more here in the US.

I've had a couple people ask me about buying my 964RS. And I'd sell it, but not for the price you can buy one in europe for - simply because it takes a ton of effort, time, and money to make sure you are getting it right...


British plates as proof of life.

kkswow12

well, i have lived in germany now for 20+ years and have owned a few...... and have a decent network of friends and acquaintances in the local porsche universe- nay, neighborhood..... and a great and fun neighborhood it is, but the time for change has come, and that is a different tale... so, there's that,

kkswow12

and i have been really fortunate...there are so many i'd like to thank, but, well, just a joke, but still....i AM a lucky sumbich, so muchas gracias amigos, and thensome