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Old Dec 22, 2023 | 12:31 PM
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Failed smog because of idle emissions. Any tips on getting the CAT to light up?

a spirited drive with hill climb to preheat then idle for a while to ignite?

what temp on the CAT would indicate its working? 400F? More?

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Old Dec 22, 2023 | 12:33 PM
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Maybe put the under-engine cover back on to stop it cooling in traffic?
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Old Dec 22, 2023 | 01:40 PM
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Cats don't "light up" or "ignite." They operate most effectively at a specific temp range. What engine temp did you do the test at? If on a cold engine, then that's almost certainly your problem. If on a fully warmed up engine, then it could be the cat, or it could be other problems -- o2 sensors, injectors, ignition components, etc. Anything that was preventing full combustion. What were the numbers, and what engine temp did you do the test at?
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Old Dec 22, 2023 | 03:43 PM
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Please share numbers and what actual test. I don't see an idle test on my smog report.
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It was after a good run but I got stuck in slow traffic as I dropped the car off so it cooled off some. Engine was hot.
didn’t get the numbers - it was only just a fail. Hence my assumption the Cat wasn’t at the correct temp.
rechecked ignition & no codes.
car Is running the best it ever has.
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Old Dec 22, 2023 | 04:24 PM
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Standard California smog test. It failed the final tailpipe test at idle after normal reading at high revs.

And the vacuum system was refreshed a couple years back including intake stack joints.

what temp should a functioning CAT run at?
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Google says 500F with the exit much hotter than input. Will report back.
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Old Dec 23, 2023 | 11:43 AM
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I was close to failing on Nox once and I asked the tech what would cause this. He said getting the car too hot can cause high Nox readings. I had driven the car for hours before the test so it seemed a possibility.
The next time I was due for a test I just went for a 15 minute freeway run to warm it up and it passed easily and has ever since.
Without the numbers everyone here is just shooting in the dark as to a cause.




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Old Dec 23, 2023 | 04:13 PM
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Retest is next Friday. I’ll get numbers then.
vague memory that it was HC fail.

2 drives now both test the same: 550C at the inlet (center seam) 500C at the outlet seams.

doesn’t sound right to me. Do you think my cat has expired?
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Found the numbers:
803 rpm, HC=137 (100 max)
CO2= 15.4%, O2= 0.1%, CO= 0.04%





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I only drive about 2 miles to the smog place and passed with no issues. Could be the cat is done.
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Thanks Goose, What year is yours? SAI working correctly?
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‘96 with 123k. sai all good still
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That explains the 15mins to pass state. Thanks.
mine has 148k so it did pretty good although the cat on my Subaru has 280k and still passes with flying colors.

what is the definitive test for a Cat?
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Originally Posted by IainM
Found the numbers:
803 rpm, HC=137 (100 max)
CO2= 15.4%, O2= 0.1%, CO= 0.04%



Interesting you did test at idle. Both mine were at load. Also standard California smog. Are u 4wd?
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I failed 25mph test. Tech told me because I didn't drive enough. Filled gas tank with 1 bottle Swepco 503 and drove until tank was empty. Added 1bottle Techron to another fill up and also drove entire tank. 400miles of spirited "Italian tune up" driving. Put fresh gas retested and passed.

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