Did Porsche weld Door Check Strap mounts on the outside at the factory?
10-04-2021, 10:37 PM
#31
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Well, with all this being said about whether or not Porsche decided to do a quick repair in the factory for subpar door check straps, I find the whole door design to be unsatisfactory.
Even with our cars being > 25 years old and "repaired the proper way" by pulling apart and welding from behind the A-pillar, I still feel these check straps to be insufficient. My doors have that very loose mid-swing to them which can cause the doors to swing under momentum and get door dings.
Let's try and come up with a modern solution which also includes distinct stopping points in mid-swing. Andy had mentioned the need for this in his check strap replacement and modification.
Even with our cars being > 25 years old and "repaired the proper way" by pulling apart and welding from behind the A-pillar, I still feel these check straps to be insufficient. My doors have that very loose mid-swing to them which can cause the doors to swing under momentum and get door dings.
Let's try and come up with a modern solution which also includes distinct stopping points in mid-swing. Andy had mentioned the need for this in his check strap replacement and modification.
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10-04-2021, 10:40 PM
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Thanks. The passenger side I didn't touch, it's a mig weld. Drivers side is the one I vee'd out and tig welded, before touch up paint.
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10-04-2021, 10:57 PM
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To follow up on my previous post ... I know that Andy did discuss this in a little more detail in the post: https://rennlist.com/forums/993-foru...ap-repair.html
But it sounds like the improved design was never implemented.
But it sounds like the improved design was never implemented.
10-04-2021, 11:45 PM
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I’ll take Frank Becks word too. He stated that if the door check strap is not centered in the opening then there is something wrong with it.
When I asked a question on your last auction, your response was instant anger followed by multiple post revisions. My posts were not revised, but wow were you angry!
Why would you care that I am curious about this issue unless you are trying to sell something and you don’t want people asking questions.
When I asked a question on your last auction, your response was instant anger followed by multiple post revisions. My posts were not revised, but wow were you angry!
Why would you care that I am curious about this issue unless you are trying to sell something and you don’t want people asking questions.
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10-05-2021, 12:15 AM
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I thought used car dealers had better things to do than call names and bully Rennlist members.
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10-05-2021, 12:50 AM
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10-05-2021, 01:29 AM
#38
that’s pretty low, and this isn’t 2002 I don’t think used car dealer is an insult anymore lol @tarek307 has been a part of this community for a long time, and heck if I could figure out how to buy and sell cars I’m passionate about and in love with while keeping the excellent reputation he does while having to deal with unpleasant people such as yourself I surely would do it, beats my boring 9-5.
”Door strap detective/constable”
”affiliated with door check police”
”he is one of those”
“Someone trying to pat themselves on the back”
The above examples are in response to my question and comparison of answers.
You have to ask yourself why the seller would react in an emotional way, start calling names, and attack character. He stated the door check issue was no big deal and you fix it when it happens. That is his opinion and I respect it. Demeaning my interest or opinion is another thing. You and others may think the world of this individual and I would defend your right to that opinion based on your experience. My experience has been an angry name caller who I will never buy from and will never recommend.
Cheers
10-05-2021, 02:00 AM
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I think used car dealer is a fair response to:
”Door strap detective/constable”
”affiliated with door check police”
”he is one of those”
“Someone trying to pat themselves on the back”
The above examples are in response to my question and comparison of answers.
You have to ask yourself why the seller would react in an emotional way, start calling names, and attack character. He stated the door check issue was no big deal and you fix it when it happens. That is his opinion and I respect it. Demeaning my interest or opinion is another thing. You and others may think the world of this individual and I would defend your right to that opinion based on your experience. My experience has been an angry name caller who I will never buy from and will never recommend.
Cheers
”Door strap detective/constable”
”affiliated with door check police”
”he is one of those”
“Someone trying to pat themselves on the back”
The above examples are in response to my question and comparison of answers.
You have to ask yourself why the seller would react in an emotional way, start calling names, and attack character. He stated the door check issue was no big deal and you fix it when it happens. That is his opinion and I respect it. Demeaning my interest or opinion is another thing. You and others may think the world of this individual and I would defend your right to that opinion based on your experience. My experience has been an angry name caller who I will never buy from and will never recommend.
Cheers
10-05-2021, 02:07 AM
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10-05-2021, 09:42 AM
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One can scream at the sky all they want; it doesn't change reality. I'm a truth seeker and quite content with wherever it leads me. Regardless of my preconceived bias.
The '97 C4S that we're prepping for BaT currently doesn't have the bottom welds. It was built that way. The '96 we sold was built with the welds. Yawn.
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10-05-2021, 09:56 AM
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10-05-2021, 05:46 PM
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10-05-2021, 06:36 PM
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Yes, and we've also seen many originals not broken (seemingly from long time owners that are aware of the potential issue and careful), some completely disintegrated/pulled out and everywhere in between.
I saw the pics of your car when you bought it and of course, no other option than to completely cut it out and rebuild to make it right again.
Mine with a hairline crack in the external weld, still aligned and no sheetmetal damage, this seemed to be the best course of action IMO. (with less detent pressure and being aware/careful, why go more invasive than necessary).
Not sure if you've seen many repaired this way unless you agree the external weld on some of these is in fact original.
But yes, many I've seen with an external/non-original weld had a few things going against it, one being the welding itself wasn't of great quality and two, they were trying to weld something already too far damaged.
In the end I agree with, if it breaks, fix it.
I saw the pics of your car when you bought it and of course, no other option than to completely cut it out and rebuild to make it right again.
Mine with a hairline crack in the external weld, still aligned and no sheetmetal damage, this seemed to be the best course of action IMO. (with less detent pressure and being aware/careful, why go more invasive than necessary).
Not sure if you've seen many repaired this way unless you agree the external weld on some of these is in fact original.
But yes, many I've seen with an external/non-original weld had a few things going against it, one being the welding itself wasn't of great quality and two, they were trying to weld something already too far damaged.
In the end I agree with, if it breaks, fix it.
10-05-2021, 06:47 PM
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Yes, and we've also seen many originals not broken (seemingly from long time owners that are aware of the potential issue and careful), some completely disintegrated/pulled out and everywhere in between.
I saw the pics of your car when you bought it and of course, no other option than to completely cut it out and rebuild to make it right again.
Mine with a hairline crack in the external weld, still aligned and no sheetmetal damage, this seemed to be the best course of action IMO. (with less detent pressure and being aware/careful, why go more invasive than necessary).
Not sure if you've seen many repaired this way unless you agree the external weld on some of these is in fact original.
But yes, many I've seen with an external/non-original weld had a few things going against it, one being the welding itself wasn't of great quality and two, they were trying to weld something already too far damaged.
In the end I agree with, if it breaks, fix it.
I saw the pics of your car when you bought it and of course, no other option than to completely cut it out and rebuild to make it right again.
Mine with a hairline crack in the external weld, still aligned and no sheetmetal damage, this seemed to be the best course of action IMO. (with less detent pressure and being aware/careful, why go more invasive than necessary).
Not sure if you've seen many repaired this way unless you agree the external weld on some of these is in fact original.
But yes, many I've seen with an external/non-original weld had a few things going against it, one being the welding itself wasn't of great quality and two, they were trying to weld something already too far damaged.
In the end I agree with, if it breaks, fix it.