rocket94

When downshifting coming to a light, or slowing up, moving the gear box from neutral to 1st or 2nd, it feels like i hit something and it i have to force it into gear. yes the clutch is depressed! I am directly in the gate, not searching. Any one have issue or Fix for this? At a standstill, moving into 1st is very easy.

gavonder

I find that you have to be going pretty slow to smoothly go into first. As far as 2nd, are you in the right rev range? If so, are there any other issues while shifting up?

rocket94

no issues up shifting.

notabot

I have the same issue if I’m doing it at-speed, but no issue once I’m stopped or maybe <5 mph.

Could this be a safety feature to prevent over-revving?

fsa

Some savvy forum members here have stated that downshifting into 1st should not be done-ever.

Dick in TN

Try doing a match rev downshift. Go to neutral, let the clutch out while blipping the throttle, press in the clutch, shift to second. Try doing this sequence when you downshift to any gear.
Saves your synchronizers. For first gear, as you roll up to a stop, go to neutral, pop the clutch out just before the car stops rolling, press in the clutch and shift to first.
The synchronizers match the revs of two shafts so the gears can mesh without clashing, by using the method I described you use the clutch for this, not usually perfectly but close enough
that it is much easier for the synchronizers to take it the rest of the way.

rocket94

THanks for the input guys, This is helpful. This is my first manual PCAR and learning. My other manual was a Mazda RX7 1987 and it was much different.

nk993

He said clutch is depressed.... so none of these are the issue


FWIW OP I had the same symptoms as you, but I doubt you have the same underlying issue. In my case it was an incorrectly installed input shaft bearing causing residual friction

joerg65

I had the same problem on my 964 and it was cured when I replaced the master and slave clutch cylinders.

chsu74

Double clutch and see if there is improvement

notabot

I will “downshift” into 1st when coming to a stop at a stale red light since it’ll be green soon, but I keep the clutch pedal depressed the entire time.

gavonder

Not true. Just because the clutch is depressed doesn't mean it will go into gear. There could be many other things going on.

rocket94

That is correct, i have the Clutch to the floor while slowing down and it takes alot of effort to push into first and second gear. Almost like is fighting something. Nothing grinding though, just a hard push in as if i am fighting a linkage then pops in. If i come to a full stop and then engage 1st the shift is normal.
I think most of us do this sequence. you see a light ahead doing 40 MPH in 3rd gear. Clutch to floor, out of third, keep clutch depressed and as i slow to 10-15 mph in anticipation of the light to change you try to engage 1st or 2nd (still clutch down) and thats when i have an issue. I hope i am explaining this clearly.

Holger3.2

hmmmm ...
long time ago i learned that you shouldn't role with depressed clutch at all ... When you slow down in 3rd, on the low point switch down in 2nd and roll to stop, than put in 1st ... if you don't stop, stay in 2nd, he will pull you out if accelerating, even from mostly standstill ...

pp000830

Never ever, unless you want to wear your synchros out and if done aggressively cause your clutch to explode!