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Old 08-18-2020, 11:53 AM
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Default New control arms or just bushings.

Looking at the rear end of my car - Camber/Kinematic/toe arms all have replaceable bushings and I've seen the various kits available for that.

I'm not sure about labor expenses yet, but I'm wondering if it ultimately makes more sense to just replace the rear arms altogether - since the monoballs would also be replaced with that move and I assume the labor is cheaper just replacing arms instead of swapping out bushings. I am replacing the front control A -arm bushings with Walrods.

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I adopted new, just for the fact you stated - the monoballs could be tired as well
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I adopted new, just for the fact you stated - the monoballs could be tired as well
Did you replace the A-arms as well? My assumption is that wear should not be so bad on the rear end A arms.
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Originally Posted by rk-d
Did you replace the A-arms as well? My assumption is that wear should not be so bad on the rear end A arms.



actual parts I installed

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^^^ Nice

I think I'm probably going to wait on this til next year. I'm already pretty deep in this year's round of mods. I'll probably do what you did and just replace all the arms and A-arms at the same time. Probably doesn't make sense to do it piecemeal unless something is clearly off.
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Originally Posted by rk-d
^^^ Nice

I think I'm probably going to wait on this til next year. I'm already pretty deep in this year's round of mods. I'll probably do what you did and just replace all the arms and A-arms at the same time. Probably doesn't make sense to do it piecemeal unless something is clearly off.
Before I went to mono-***** I installed Elephant sport rubber front arms and RS rear . Te sport rubber in the RS parts perfectly matches the Elephant sport rubber in front., The RS parts were no more expensive than the regular at that time.

Theses are the RS rear parts, A-arms and KT links(w/ the blue dotd), the camber link is the same on normal and RS, the Toe arms I used are Tarett mono-ball


For street use I thinkk that stock toe links w/ sport bushes might be a better way to go but it also depends on what the driver wants
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I think that what rk-d meant by monoballs are the circled in pic, ball joints, maybe I am wrong , as usual




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Originally Posted by Bill Verburg
Before I went to mono-***** I installed Elephant sport rubber front arms and RS rear . Te sport rubber in the RS parts perfectly matches the Elephant sport rubber in front., The RS parts were no more expensive than the regular at that time.

Theses are the RS rear parts, A-arms and KT links(w/ the blue dotd), the camber link is the same on normal and RS, the Toe arms I used are Tarett mono-ball


For street use I thinkk that stock toe links w/ sport bushes might be a better way to go but it also depends on what the driver wants
Can't go wrong with that - do you have a source for RS lower arms and K-arms? I haven't found these anywhere.
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RS KT arm is 99333104580

RS a arm L 99333104181

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Originally Posted by rk-d
Can't go wrong with that - do you have a source for RS lower arms and K-arms? I haven't found these anywhere.
Any dealer
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Originally Posted by Bill Verburg
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Thanks. I've been down the Rennlist rabbit hole on this topic and your old posts have been invaluable.
Making inquiries. Whether now or later, this is the way I will go if and when I refresh the rear. No point in half way doing it, I suppose.
Appreciate the help. From a priority standpoint -- I wonder if a rear suspension refresh with RS parts should go in first over RS sway bars (if I was forced to pick one to do this year and another to do later).

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For a street car I don't see any reason to replace the whole arm unless the ball joints have gone bad.
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Originally Posted by rk-d
Thanks. I've been down the Rennlist rabbit hole on this topic and your old posts have been invaluable.
Making inquiries. Whether now or later, this is the way I will go if and when I refresh the rear. No point in half way doing it, I suppose.
Appreciate the help. From a priority standpoint -- I wonder if a rear suspension refresh with RS parts should go in first over RS sway bars (if I was forced to pick one to do this year and another to do later).
I'd do the whole suspension first, worry about sways later
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Originally Posted by craina
For a street car I don't see any reason to replace the whole arm unless the ball joints have gone bad.
The leading leg rear A arm is a mono-ball that gets loosey goosey before the rubber parts
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Originally Posted by Bill Verburg
The leading leg rear A arm is a mono-ball that gets loosey goosey before the rubber parts
This was my reasoning as well. If I'm having the thing dismantled and paying for labor to have the bushings wrestled out, I'd want the 22 year old mono-***** addressed -- hence new arms. I also wanted to install the RS parts just for the fun of it. I've got everything ordered from Gert. Went ahead with Rennline solid (non-tilting) sub-frame bushings as well. Getting Walrods in the front A-arms. I decided to bite the bullet and get the sways installed as well - mostly because I foresee myself regretting not getting it done while the car was already apart.

Of course none of this has anything to do with "need", but I'm excited to see where this ends up.

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