How many people heal toe?
#31
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I do it pretty often. A friend was riding with me and said I heel toe "Nascar" style, apparently I do it weird. I slide my foot up the brake pedal and turn it so my toes are on the top of the gas pedal and my heel on the brake. Apparently that's backwards? Works for me though.
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Wish I could drive like this ( apologies for the dreadful music)
#33
Burning Brakes
Another thing to keep in mind when doing heel/toe or rocker is that the seat position fore/aft affects the geometry of the ankle/foot wrt the gas/brake pedals, I find it easier to do when the seat is moved a bit further forward than usual, this also gets you up on the wheel a bit more and saves the shoulder muscles
#34
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I use heel-toe as often as I can on the street, though as others have noted the opportunities have to be right. In particular, there is a sharp right turn a few blocks from where I live with a dedicated right turn lane, and if the light is green and the road is clear, I do it every time I can. One day I'll get it right every time, but practice makes perfect right? It is pretty much a necessity at the track, though I don't spend much time there anymore (sigh). And I didn't get it right all the time there either.
Again, as others have mentioned I also find it easier to have the seat a bit more forward than you might think usual. I find it makes for a better angle to the pedals and more comfortable for my foot.
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#35
If racers (and most buyers of Porsches) use PDK-like transmissions with no heel-toe, then I don't feel one bit guilty using rev-match on my manual.
With rev-match, heel-toe is becoming an anachronism, just like manual transmissions.
With rev-match, heel-toe is becoming an anachronism, just like manual transmissions.
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#38
Yeah, my old GT4 had that rev matching crap. Pointless. It's like driving a PDK with a lever instead of a paddle. Sucks the life right out of the whole business.
What's the point of any of this if there is no challenge; no reward for practice and effort. The pleasure of executing something well instead of having a computer do it for you. Otherwise, let's just buy an electric Tesla appliance and get it over with.
/rant
What's the point of any of this if there is no challenge; no reward for practice and effort. The pleasure of executing something well instead of having a computer do it for you. Otherwise, let's just buy an electric Tesla appliance and get it over with.
/rant
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#39
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I find roll/side of foot best in 993. I would be careful of winged or widened pedal extensions in a car not for track. If you daily drive you wear all kinds of footwear. If i am driving mine with blocky shoes or fall boots it can be very easy to catch the acceleration when braking suddenly or emergency braking. A more track focused car you likely have the right shoes for the job.
#40
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I do it on the street when I'm coming up to a turn and want to downshift, just for fun. It's more of a big toe/little toe, since my heel doesn't touch the pedals.
#41
What kind of turns are people using left foot braking on? I tried it one day on an empty street and nearly gave myself whiplash.
Its funny how the brake pedal seemed so much more sensitive to pressure using my left foot than with the right foot. I suppose it’s just practice, practice practice.
I have a LWFW and agree that heel-toe makes street driving very fun. Regrettably, I don’t have time for DE or track days so this is as close as it gets to feeling like a racer. 😁
For the 3-2 downshift I have gotten into the habit of double clutching the shift while doing heel-toe. Shifter slides into 2nd so much easier. Is this a sign of a 2nd gear synchro being worn or just normal? 82k miles on the transmission.
Its funny how the brake pedal seemed so much more sensitive to pressure using my left foot than with the right foot. I suppose it’s just practice, practice practice.
I have a LWFW and agree that heel-toe makes street driving very fun. Regrettably, I don’t have time for DE or track days so this is as close as it gets to feeling like a racer. 😁
For the 3-2 downshift I have gotten into the habit of double clutching the shift while doing heel-toe. Shifter slides into 2nd so much easier. Is this a sign of a 2nd gear synchro being worn or just normal? 82k miles on the transmission.
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What kind of turns are people using left foot braking on? I tried it one day on an empty street and nearly gave myself whiplash.
Its funny how the brake pedal seemed so much more sensitive to pressure using my left foot than with the right foot. I suppose it’s just practice, practice practice.
I have a LWFW and agree that heel-toe makes street driving very fun. Regrettably, I don’t have time for DE or track days so this is as close as it gets to feeling like a racer. 😁
For the 3-2 downshift I have gotten into the habit of double clutching the shift while doing heel-toe. Shifter slides into 2nd so much easier. Is this a sign of a 2nd gear synchro being worn or just normal? 82k miles on the transmission.
Its funny how the brake pedal seemed so much more sensitive to pressure using my left foot than with the right foot. I suppose it’s just practice, practice practice.
I have a LWFW and agree that heel-toe makes street driving very fun. Regrettably, I don’t have time for DE or track days so this is as close as it gets to feeling like a racer. 😁
For the 3-2 downshift I have gotten into the habit of double clutching the shift while doing heel-toe. Shifter slides into 2nd so much easier. Is this a sign of a 2nd gear synchro being worn or just normal? 82k miles on the transmission.
Another use is when 4-wheeling , in the old days before traction control days, to send torque to the non-slipping wheel in mud
You will learn quick to apply the right pressure ( for the given speed ). On a side note. I even challenged myself to use chopsticks with both hands !