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Old 05-05-2002, 12:55 PM
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incorrect information . Somehow I though I had 23mm Porsche Factory front bars <img src="graemlins/c.gif" border="0" alt="[ouch]" /> . Viken <img src="graemlins/r.gif" border="0" alt="[king]" /> brought to my attention the fact that Porsche doesn't make "fixed" 23mm front bars...hmmmmm back to the shoe box for the receipts. Sure enough , I have 22mm bars on my car. So if any of you have been out looking for 23mm front bars they won't be there. Also, I did try the 25mm front bars from Performance Products. Great concept, with a few problems, one of which is that they didn't fit correctly. Here is the set up on my car backed up by documentation:

22 mm stabilizer bar for the front
2x 22mm rubber bushing for the front stabilizer
drop link left for the front stabilizer
drop link right for the front stabilizer
special bolts
21 mm stabilizer bar for the rear
2x drop link for the rear stabilizer
M030 RoW springs, front and rear.

I believe Viken has a similar set up, maybe a slight difference in rear sway bar diameter, possibly 20mm.

I have had the alignment checked, including the kinematic toe. The car handles like a dream, on both short and long courses.

There, I feel better <img src="graemlins/a_smil17.gif" border="0" alt="[blabla]" /> about confessing my sin of misinformation. It is especially good beacuse this is Easter Sunday, for those of you of the Orthodox persuasion. I go in peace knowing I have made myself right with the world...this is a world wide Board you know!

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Old 05-05-2002, 05:39 PM
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They do make 23mm bars, but they are the adjustable kind: the RS bars.
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Old 05-05-2002, 07:42 PM
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Speaking of RS bars, I have a question, which was partially addressed in a previous post, but that I am unable to find. I was adjusting my PSS9 shocks, and noticed that one side of my rear RS stabilizer mount had loosened, because the lock ring is on top rather than on the bottom. My sway bar is resting against the lower control arm. The previous poster said that he thought that this was due to the fact that he had the bar on stiff. It happened to me, and my bar is set on "middle". Should I put the ring under the stabilizer mount only, or should I put one above and below? Is this a common size, or do I need to get one from Bilstein? I'll need the car for a track day at Mid-Ohio in about 10 days, so I'm interested in getting it fixed ASAP.
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Chuck,

I'm running the same setup you have, PSS9 and RS sways, and I did have the rear sway mount move on me once. I just retorqued it with a shock adjusting tool that fit the black ring properly (I'd used the old screwdriver and hammer technique first time around) and it hasn't moved since.

I only have the ring on top of the sway mount and with enough torque it no longer wants to move.

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Martin - It sounds like you have the exact set-up that I would like to get for my 95' 993. I read Viken's comments on Robin's cite, but I am still on the fence. I commute 90 miles a day (LA to Irvine) and don't want to get too beat up. How do you like the new set-up?
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[quote]Originally posted by tmobley:
<strong>Martin - It sounds like you have the exact set-up that I would like to get for my 95' 993. I read Viken's comments on Robin's cite, but I am still on the fence. I commute 90 miles a day (LA to Irvine) and don't want to get too beat up. How do you like the new set-up?</strong><hr></blockquote>

I am running 18" SO2 low profile tires...they are rough regardless. Perhaps if the car had 17" somewhat higher profile tires, the ride would be a bit smoother for a daily commute...LA to Irvine, I just don't know how you do it, day after day.

If you are interested in a slightly used 993TT set up, front struts and rear shocks, ANDIAL is taking one off a 993TT in a coil over conversion. Call Arnold or Dieter...better yet, talk to Kevin Kelly, their best "wrench". They can hook you up to the owner. I bought my 993TT struts and shocks used for about $400..another $300 for the bars. The PSS9s run about $1,750 + the bars.

If you have a big budget, the PSS9s with 9 way adjustable shocks would appear to be the answer. I know that Viken has the new Bilsteins (non-adjustable) on order. Gert sells them for about $800 front and rear.

Good luck with the project.

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Ben
Thanks for the info. Do you track your car, or drive very hard? I'm wondering if "really tight" will do for me. It is encouraging to know that it has held for you. I spoke to Scott at Bilstein today, and he is going to send me another set of rings to put under the stabilizers as well. Otherwise, I really like the PSS9 system, although I have yet to fine tune it to my satisfaction on the track. I should know more after a day at Mid Ohio next week. On the street, though, it is very comfortable, without any harshness or jolting...very smooth
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Thanks for the heads up - I will give them a call.
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Chuck,

I DE the car 4-5 times a year - and drive it daily - I feel the upper rings should be enough - but the lower ones can't hurt!

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The 993RS has 23mm sway bars up front and 20mm sway bars in the back.



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