HiFi Speaker Upgrade, Plug and play?
#1
HiFi Speaker Upgrade, Plug and play?
I'm still holding out for a plug and play replacement. I've read through most if not all of the audio threads here. There are some really clever and resourceful solutions. But none offer the ability to snap off the cover and replace the original speakers. Unless I go to Porsche dealer and I suspect the quality will be less than desirable.
If there have been any advancements on this front, I'd love to hear about them.
In the meantime, I plan to visit a couple of auto audio shops and see what they might have.
all the best
If there have been any advancements on this front, I'd love to hear about them.
In the meantime, I plan to visit a couple of auto audio shops and see what they might have.
all the best
Last edited by gregorytate; 09-26-2019 at 10:23 AM. Reason: grammar
#2
Instructor
As you saw from my thread, I just went through this process recently and ended up getting and installing original speakers both front and back (although hi-fi upgrades for the back as I didn't have hi-fi as an option previously). They still sounds much better than the original speakers which literally fall apart when you remove them (or have already disintegrated as per my rear speakers).
Still, if you want a good upgrade on the front I think you'll need to be prepared to do some cutting of the door cards and stapling the leather / leatherette back in place after enlarging the holes as the modern sizes just aren't the same as the originals. Even if you can't find something that will fit the original cover then the good news is that most covers have the logos on the bottom of the plate and this will be mostly obscured by the door pocket from a distance.
Good luck and keen to hear if you do manage to find something!
Still, if you want a good upgrade on the front I think you'll need to be prepared to do some cutting of the door cards and stapling the leather / leatherette back in place after enlarging the holes as the modern sizes just aren't the same as the originals. Even if you can't find something that will fit the original cover then the good news is that most covers have the logos on the bottom of the plate and this will be mostly obscured by the door pocket from a distance.
Good luck and keen to hear if you do manage to find something!
#3
Thanks BlueHorizon. I will certainly share.
I did replace the rears with a high end pair from Suncoast. Too expensive, but it was plug and play. The old rears were disintegrated as you mentioned. I wasn't going to do anything for the fronts, but got to thinking how bad they would be after seeing the rears. Onwards and upwards.
all the best
I did replace the rears with a high end pair from Suncoast. Too expensive, but it was plug and play. The old rears were disintegrated as you mentioned. I wasn't going to do anything for the fronts, but got to thinking how bad they would be after seeing the rears. Onwards and upwards.
all the best
#4
Race Car
Same here. Looked for a plug/play solution and ended up just getting fresh OE.
#5
Something to consider . . . . it's really everything before the speakers that makes the audio sound "not good".
An option to consider: https://rennlist.com/forums/993-foru...p-install.html
I'm not an audiophile. I just wanted modern sound and Bluetooth from my 1997 911 HiFi stereo.
An option to consider: https://rennlist.com/forums/993-foru...p-install.html
I'm not an audiophile. I just wanted modern sound and Bluetooth from my 1997 911 HiFi stereo.
#6
Burning Brakes
Does someone have a list of all the OE replacement speakers (front and rear) for the HiFi system? I looked on Sunset's website and couldn't seem to find them.
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One of the benefits of the hi-Fi optioned car is one can do anything they want under the speaker housing covers on the doors and it will look stock. In my case I removed the speaker housings under the cover and replaced it with a woofer mounted in the hole in the door under the cover with extension rings so it was not set back too far from the grill in the OE cover. I then mounted the tweeter using the old speaker box mounting point in the position where the original midrange speaker was located. Finally, I replaced the power amp with one that has considerably greater output under the seat and added an in-line digital signal processor to recover the low-frequency harmonics that are difficult to reproduce in the acoustic environment in our cars. After all this I have come to the conclusion that the original audio concept in our cars was innovative in its day however the implementation of it was grossly underpowered and lacked low-frequency response something that may have not mattered in 1993~95 when it was designed but is not equal to even a basic aftermarket implementation today.
Andy
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Andy, can you elaborate on this "added an in-line digital signal processor to recover the low-frequency harmonics" What did you use and how is it installed?
One of the benefits of the hi-Fi optioned car is one can do anything they want under the speaker housing covers on the doors and it will look stock. In my case I removed the speaker housings under the cover and replaced it with a woofer mounted in the hole in the door under the cover with extension rings so it was not set back too far from the grill in the OE cover. I then mounted the tweeter using the old speaker box mounting point in the position where the original midrange speaker was located. Finally, I replaced the power amp with one that has considerably greater output under the seat and added an in-line digital signal processor to recover the low-frequency harmonics that are difficult to reproduce in the acoustic environment in our cars. After all this I have come to the conclusion that the original audio concept in our cars was innovative in its day however the implementation of it was grossly underpowered and lacked low-frequency response something that may have not mattered in 1993~95 when it was designed but is not equal to even a basic aftermarket implementation today.
Andy
Andy
#12
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On the plus side, the BX10X provides equalization and regenerates the lost lower frequency harmonics and sounds great! For general pop music and things such as acoustic guitar, it causes the bass to feel much smoother eliminating the boxed-in like sound inherent in door speakers. I feel for general listening it eliminates the need for a sub-woofer while transforming the sound for the better. On the negative side
the intensity control that it comes with needs to be turned down when music with a hard beat is played as it easily overdrives the 75 watt RMS amp causing distortion. Having it in the car a while I have now set my 10-year-old Alpine radio’s bass control center frequency to 50hz and control the BX10X function using the standard bass control on the radio and found overdrive distortion to not be a big issue. If your goal is to have powerful thumping bass this solution is not for you, most likely a much larger power amp or separately powered subwoofer enclosure would be the ticket. Some newer head units incorporate within them features similar to the BX10X eliminating the need for this extra box.
#13
I may have found a plug and play coax speaker for the HiFi system. As soon as I have the details, I will share the make and model number.
However, safely getting the grill covers off is proving difficult. I'm returning to the prior threads to look for a picture of the grill tabs (if there is one).
all the best,
However, safely getting the grill covers off is proving difficult. I'm returning to the prior threads to look for a picture of the grill tabs (if there is one).
all the best,
Last edited by gregorytate; 10-01-2019 at 06:21 PM. Reason: updated info
#15
Yes, the front HiFi speakers. I easily replaced the rears (cabriolet) with some over priced high end speakers from either Suncoast or Pelican. Can’t remember which.
I should know in a couple of days about the goodness of the fit on the fronts. I’ll post then.
I should know in a couple of days about the goodness of the fit on the fronts. I’ll post then.