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I need some advice on what I should do to my beloved 993.
After talking to my mechanic the other days I am being sucked into modifing my tiptronic into a manuel. Yes its a big job (around 10000usd) of cause many will say sell your tip and look for a manuel. However in Hong Kong may be one out of fifty is a manuel and for 993(its ten years old now..)it is very rare. Friend of mine has a NA 993 and looking for a turbo with no luck. Make no mistake I love my car but really really miss driving a 6sp. Tiptonic is great gearbox but driving manuel just give you that moment of satisfaction no autobox can provide.
If I decide to mod it I am planning a big way, like 3.8L kit, 6sp box, Rs aerokit, Recaro seats etc. but for the money I am sure a turbo is within reach....
Please solve my misery
After talking to my mechanic the other days I am being sucked into modifing my tiptronic into a manuel. Yes its a big job (around 10000usd) of cause many will say sell your tip and look for a manuel. However in Hong Kong may be one out of fifty is a manuel and for 993(its ten years old now..)it is very rare. Friend of mine has a NA 993 and looking for a turbo with no luck. Make no mistake I love my car but really really miss driving a 6sp. Tiptonic is great gearbox but driving manuel just give you that moment of satisfaction no autobox can provide.
If I decide to mod it I am planning a big way, like 3.8L kit, 6sp box, Rs aerokit, Recaro seats etc. but for the money I am sure a turbo is within reach....
Please solve my misery
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i think you should sell the car and get another one .............. chaning out the tip for a manual for 10k is kinda crazy when you crazy when you can get a half decent vehicle for 30k and change.
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i think you should sell the car and get another one .............. chaning out the tip for a manual for 10k is kinda crazy when you crazy when you can get a half decent vehicle for 30k and change.
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Sell the tip and get a TT.
'94 993s are worth HK$250-325K depending on condition; and '95 Turbos can be had in the neighborhood of HK$500K. My friend sold a sweet yellow TT a number of months back and I was very tempted to buy it.
'94 993s are worth HK$250-325K depending on condition; and '95 Turbos can be had in the neighborhood of HK$500K. My friend sold a sweet yellow TT a number of months back and I was very tempted to buy it.
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yes I admit I am a little crazy....but doesn't all car nuts are :-)
David you are famililar with the HK market....I have been on the look out for a TT but with no luck! A yellow TT? Man Its the exact colour I am looking for? What year was it and around how much he was asking for? My relative bought a dark blue one, 95 with beautiful full carbon interior kit and GT3 seats few months back around 53K.
Another thing to do is drive this car a year or two longer and get a 996 GT3 for 65-70K? But of cause Air cool is a different beast altogether and the sound of a NA aircool engine is just wonderful, even compare to turbo aircool......
David you are famililar with the HK market....I have been on the look out for a TT but with no luck! A yellow TT? Man Its the exact colour I am looking for? What year was it and around how much he was asking for? My relative bought a dark blue one, 95 with beautiful full carbon interior kit and GT3 seats few months back around 53K.
Another thing to do is drive this car a year or two longer and get a 996 GT3 for 65-70K? But of cause Air cool is a different beast altogether and the sound of a NA aircool engine is just wonderful, even compare to turbo aircool......
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Why not just install a TT motor and trans. Can be purchased here for 20-25k and it is plug and play. All You have to remember is to jumper the #26 fuse so the fuelpump will come on. Make sure to get the wiring harness and DME when You get the drivetrain. We did it in my garage/shop at my home and it took about 6 hours to get it installed. It will fit a NB car fine btw.
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i think it's tough bringing a car in from the states... i know in singapore the taxes on a car shipped almost exceeded the cost of the car (back in '97).
winsome--- maybe you should just bite the bullet & pay for the mod, although the price seems a bit high. have you checked elsewhere? also, if you like the car... just do it. i know it's gotta be tough to find even the "right" 993n.a. in hk. it would really suck to let yours go & end up w/ a "stick" that turned out to be even more work in other areas to get it to equal what you have now. just my 2¢.
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winsome--- maybe you should just bite the bullet & pay for the mod, although the price seems a bit high. have you checked elsewhere? also, if you like the car... just do it. i know it's gotta be tough to find even the "right" 993n.a. in hk. it would really suck to let yours go & end up w/ a "stick" that turned out to be even more work in other areas to get it to equal what you have now. just my 2¢.
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Originally posted by winsome
David you are famililar with the HK market....I have been on the look out for a TT but with no luck! A yellow TT? Man Its the exact colour I am looking for? What year was it and around how much he was asking for?
David you are famililar with the HK market....I have been on the look out for a TT but with no luck! A yellow TT? Man Its the exact colour I am looking for? What year was it and around how much he was asking for?
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Buy a new car. fine a car in the usa and have it ship.
Buy a new car. fine a car in the usa and have it ship.
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Why not just install a TT motor and trans. Can be purchased here for 20-25k and it is plug and play. All You have to remember is to jumper the #26 fuse so the fuelpump will come on. Make sure to get the wiring harness and DME when You get the drivetrain. We did it in my garage/shop at my home and it took about 6 hours to get it installed. It will fit a NB car fine btw.
Why not just install a TT motor and trans. Can be purchased here for 20-25k and it is plug and play. All You have to remember is to jumper the #26 fuse so the fuelpump will come on. Make sure to get the wiring harness and DME when You get the drivetrain. We did it in my garage/shop at my home and it took about 6 hours to get it installed. It will fit a NB car fine btw.
Best bet is still to find a TT that is already in HK or think about a '99 GT3 - these were about $1.2MM new but are now about the same price as a TT. Eddy can tell you how many TTs and GT3s are in HK so you have a better idea what the supply is.
Good luck in your search
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Are you sure you want to change to a manual in HK? Having said that I suspect if I lived in HK I would get the 6-speed. I remember all the traffic jams when I lived there many moons ago. Still remember how bad the driving manners were back then!
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Originally posted by Silver Bullet
You mean you "wouldn't get the 6-speed" right?
You mean you "wouldn't get the 6-speed" right?
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Originally posted by Silver Bullet
I thought you were Scottish?
I used to commute in a 6-speed 993 but the commute was slow so constant shifting from 1st thru 3rd became tedious, so now I commute in my truck with an slushbox. Now I can focus on road rage...
I thought you were Scottish?
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Scotlands my adopted home. Been in Uk for almost 18 years (damn, didn't realize it was that long), lived in HK for 17 years and born in Japan.
Figure that out!
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You guys are great and Thank you. Honestly, as I am sure you all understand as a car nuts, espacially as a Porsche enthusiast, we have a special relationship with our baby. Yet at the same time we are constantly at a look out for more performance, therefore a new car always swinging back and forth in our mind.
I am going through a serious impulsive buying sphere so I needed to think VERY carefully before taking any action. ;-)
I got my 993 at a very low price and it is for this reason I wanted modify it to a semi-RS spec..... the RS is still one of my all time favorate. It will be very difficult for me to mod to a true RS spec since I don't really want to sacrifice TOO much comfort, eg If I use the RS springs and shocks it will be too bumpy for everyday use?! So the most is to put in a set of Pss9. Another example is that I need to retain the rear seats as my 4.5yr old daughter will scream otherwise.....
But come to think of it I need that aircool 993 to be in my collection, guess I will save up for 997 GT3?!
I will need you guys to give me the incentive to do the irrational thing...oh and what my wife will have to say about that.....
For those who are interested the Hong Kong traffic it has much improve and only during the peak hour where you will have problems. And if you pick the right time, eg Sunday morning... you are able to go full throttle for over hour and a half before traffics cuts in. I am able to achieve 200km plus , usually at below 240km for safety reason. But my group whose cars include 996 GT3 , turbo, MB E55, F-360 etc touches 280km ......Sorry I am not that brave to go higher, I know my limitation.....
I am going through a serious impulsive buying sphere so I needed to think VERY carefully before taking any action. ;-)
I got my 993 at a very low price and it is for this reason I wanted modify it to a semi-RS spec..... the RS is still one of my all time favorate. It will be very difficult for me to mod to a true RS spec since I don't really want to sacrifice TOO much comfort, eg If I use the RS springs and shocks it will be too bumpy for everyday use?! So the most is to put in a set of Pss9. Another example is that I need to retain the rear seats as my 4.5yr old daughter will scream otherwise.....
But come to think of it I need that aircool 993 to be in my collection, guess I will save up for 997 GT3?!
I will need you guys to give me the incentive to do the irrational thing...oh and what my wife will have to say about that.....
For those who are interested the Hong Kong traffic it has much improve and only during the peak hour where you will have problems. And if you pick the right time, eg Sunday morning... you are able to go full throttle for over hour and a half before traffics cuts in. I am able to achieve 200km plus , usually at below 240km for safety reason. But my group whose cars include 996 GT3 , turbo, MB E55, F-360 etc touches 280km ......Sorry I am not that brave to go higher, I know my limitation.....
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Don't do it. Find a 993 manual or trade up for a TT. Or better yet, find a manual 964 for a second car and set it up for the track with a major crash diet.
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I would recommend doing a lot of research before doing this swap. You basically need to go through the PET and figure out all of the parts that are different between the manual and the auto. To do it properly, there are lots of small things that you might not otherwise think of. Make sure things like the camshafts are the same (I've heard that on at least some of the auto Porsche's these things differ between the auto and manual). The engine computer will definitely need replacing. Then you need to see what wiring harnesses you need that are different.
In sum, before pulling the trigger on this you need to spend more than a few hours going through the PET and listing all the parts, then figuring out how much they cost and how much the labor will be to replace them all. All in all, a huge pain.
In sum, before pulling the trigger on this you need to spend more than a few hours going through the PET and listing all the parts, then figuring out how much they cost and how much the labor will be to replace them all. All in all, a huge pain.