Introduction: Motul
06-14-2018, 11:44 PM
#1
Former Vendor
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Introduction: Motul
Hello Porsche Air-Cooled Enthusiasts,
We wanted to drop a line and say "hello" to you all. We are now a site sponsor and plan to be quite active here. If you have any lubricant related questions, feel free to message us and we'll get back to you. We'll be lurking around as well so we'll see you around I'm sure. Long live the 993! - Nick
We wanted to drop a line and say "hello" to you all. We are now a site sponsor and plan to be quite active here. If you have any lubricant related questions, feel free to message us and we'll get back to you. We'll be lurking around as well so we'll see you around I'm sure. Long live the 993! - Nick
06-15-2018, 01:07 AM
#2
Burning Brakes
Can you post the Zinc and Phosphorus numbers for your 300v and 4100 Power oils in 15w-50?
06-15-2018, 01:54 AM
#4
Former Vendor
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The 300V EsterCore formula is unique in many ways, one of those ways is a Group 5 ester that has higher anti wear protection vs common synthetics. So with the combination of that specialized base oil and high concentration of metallic additives, the 300V will enable your engine to make the most power without sacrificing reliability.
06-15-2018, 02:01 AM
#5
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06-15-2018, 09:07 AM
#6
Race Director
Unfortunately, we cannot give out such data. What I can say these oils are both "Full SAPS" products. Meaning, they both have very high concentrations of metallic additives (anti-wear additives in most cases) that will give your engine a very high level of protection.
The 300V EsterCore formula is unique in many ways, one of those ways is a Group 5 ester that has higher anti wear protection vs common synthetics. So with the combination of that specialized base oil and high concentration of metallic additives, the 300V will enable your engine to make the most power without sacrificing reliability.
The 300V EsterCore formula is unique in many ways, one of those ways is a Group 5 ester that has higher anti wear protection vs common synthetics. So with the combination of that specialized base oil and high concentration of metallic additives, the 300V will enable your engine to make the most power without sacrificing reliability.
06-15-2018, 10:31 AM
#7
Burning Brakes
Unfortunately, we cannot give out such data. What I can say these oils are both "Full SAPS" products. Meaning, they both have very high concentrations of metallic additives (anti-wear additives in most cases) that will give your engine a very high level of protection.
The 300V EsterCore formula is unique in many ways, one of those ways is a Group 5 ester that has higher anti wear protection vs common synthetics. So with the combination of that specialized base oil and high concentration of metallic additives, the 300V will enable your engine to make the most power without sacrificing reliability.
The 300V EsterCore formula is unique in many ways, one of those ways is a Group 5 ester that has higher anti wear protection vs common synthetics. So with the combination of that specialized base oil and high concentration of metallic additives, the 300V will enable your engine to make the most power without sacrificing reliability.
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06-15-2018, 10:50 AM
#9
Burning Brakes
Motul has stellar reputation.
But, Nick and Motul, re: Zinc and other inherent critical components and contents:
For many on this Forum who are serious in choices of lubricants and other componente based on data, not hype or anecdote, this is not good policy.
"Cannot give out such data"? Change the verbiage to "will not..."
Poor/pour beginning here on a topic that is a perennial slippery slope anyway.
But, Nick and Motul, re: Zinc and other inherent critical components and contents:
For many on this Forum who are serious in choices of lubricants and other componente based on data, not hype or anecdote, this is not good policy.
"Cannot give out such data"? Change the verbiage to "will not..."
Poor/pour beginning here on a topic that is a perennial slippery slope anyway.
06-15-2018, 11:01 AM
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Well said.
Mobil 1 15w-50 or Motul 300V 15w-50 . . . Comme ci, comme ça
As published on the Mobil 1 website: Zinc 1300ppm
"Please reference our Mobil 1™ Product Guide for a quick look at specifications including zinc and phosphorus, as well as manufacturer approvals for Mobil 1 motor oils."
06-15-2018, 11:42 AM
#12
Racer
Unfortunately, I wouldn't even consider using an oil without knowing the amount of zinc and phosphorus that is in it....
06-15-2018, 01:26 PM
#14
I seriously doubt we will ever see Motul 300v price points, competitive with those of Mobil1.
06-15-2018, 03:13 PM
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Probably not the weight you are looking for , but it came from here : https://540ratblog.wordpress.com/
5W30 Motul 300V Ester Core 4T Racing Oil, synthetic = 112,464 psi
This Motorcycle Road Racing oil is from France and comes in liter bottles (slightly more than a quart). At the time this oil was tested in spring 2014, it cost $24.25 per bottle. And with the shipping cost added to that, the final cost was about $33.00 per bottle (shipping was all inside the U.S.), making it THE most expensive motor oil I’ve ever tested.
zinc = 1724 ppm
phosphorus = 1547 ppm
moly = 481 ppm
calcium = 3141 ppm
TBN = 7.4
This oil contains sufficient amounts of the components required (detergent, acid neutralizer, etc) for normal change intervals in street driven vehicles. But, it has way too much zinc/phos for use in cat equipped vehicles. However, it is well suited for Race Cars, Street Hotrods and Classic cars.
5W30 Motul 300V Ester Core 4T Racing Oil, synthetic = 112,464 psi
This Motorcycle Road Racing oil is from France and comes in liter bottles (slightly more than a quart). At the time this oil was tested in spring 2014, it cost $24.25 per bottle. And with the shipping cost added to that, the final cost was about $33.00 per bottle (shipping was all inside the U.S.), making it THE most expensive motor oil I’ve ever tested.
zinc = 1724 ppm
phosphorus = 1547 ppm
moly = 481 ppm
calcium = 3141 ppm
TBN = 7.4
This oil contains sufficient amounts of the components required (detergent, acid neutralizer, etc) for normal change intervals in street driven vehicles. But, it has way too much zinc/phos for use in cat equipped vehicles. However, it is well suited for Race Cars, Street Hotrods and Classic cars.
