Want to share my experience here as we seem to have lots of 992.2 issues across the board. Here's my story. My first brand new 911 experience, specced and ordered a 992.2 GTS that arrived in September. Plastic cosmetic damage on the middle of the front lower bumper on delivery. Part ordered and replaced a few weeks later. That is no big deal. However, 450 miles in, PSM and FAL failures. Car is towed to Rusnak Porsche Pasadena my home dealer where I ordered the car. FAL pump leaking. New pump installed a week later called to come get the car as it was "ready." Day later they called me an uber. En route to dealer to pickup the car on October 7 "please don't come car has new issues." Arrive to dealership, a mess of a situation. Car throwing codes. Engine misfiring on 3 cylinders surprisingly day before was ready to be picked up and magically now half the engine is misfiring. Get a call that parts need to be ordered from Germany, namely injectors, spark plugs, injector valves, and other related parts. It is now November 11 and I am told parts arrived and they are working on the car and it should be "ready" tomorrow. Utterly disappointed in Porsche. Brand new car with ~450 miles on the clock. Driven by a porsche enthusiast, followed break in procedure, didn't even get the car above 5k rpm or drive it hard. I opened a claim for a buy back with Porsche to see what their response will be.
What's everyone's take on these issues? Similar experiences to share?
What's everyone's take on these issues? Similar experiences to share?
I can tell you that the only time your warranty has any teeth is during lemon period. After that, you're at their mercy.
It can be an amicable process, where they buy it back without tarnishing the title. Be clear and inform the shop foreman your intentions to lemon the car. If you let it pass you may regret later , I know I did. If they don't play ball, lawyer up. It's the only time the consumer law actually protects us. After that, warranty claims are through arbitration which sides with the factory 90-95% of the time.
It can be an amicable process, where they buy it back without tarnishing the title. Be clear and inform the shop foreman your intentions to lemon the car. If you let it pass you may regret later , I know I did. If they don't play ball, lawyer up. It's the only time the consumer law actually protects us. After that, warranty claims are through arbitration which sides with the factory 90-95% of the time.
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Cant say Ive had a smooth experience either, as a dealership lot attendant scratched my front bumper on delivery day, but that was a relatively minor issue compared to yours. I was also fairly compensated.
100% lemon that car. Youll never be able to enjoy it, youll always be thinking: What is going to break next.
100% lemon that car. Youll never be able to enjoy it, youll always be thinking: What is going to break next.
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I too would force a buyback if this happened to me, a new car of this calibre should be perfect and not need this amount of repairs and the new car allure has been ruined and cant be replaced, I would never trust the car again.
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Sounds like that is the right way to go given what you describe. I considered a .2S and GTS. Went with the S because I was concerned with the GTS but again, not that this can't happen with a S or any car for that matter. In the end, it is a leap of faith on any purchase but clearly your (and other documented experiences) with the .2 GTS is raising some serious questions.
Aside, I didn't spec FAL on mine as something about it rubbed me the wrong way. I realize there are some who need it due to circumstances but I was on the fence and decided against it for the reasons noted.
Aside, I didn't spec FAL on mine as something about it rubbed me the wrong way. I realize there are some who need it due to circumstances but I was on the fence and decided against it for the reasons noted.
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Has it been at the dealer for more than 30 days? Looks like it has. Good luck!
https://www.dca.ca.gov/acp/pdf_files/lemonlaw_qa.pdf
https://www.dca.ca.gov/acp/pdf_files/lemonlaw_qa.pdf
Folks - i'm a CA attorney and know the lemon buy back laws. This isn't a post about lemon qualification. Just curious to know your experiences with the 992.2 and if any had similar issues. If so, after repairs did the car continue to give issues or was it smooth sailing?
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Do you mind me asking if your GTS PDCC equipped or not? Originally Posted by Narbeh991
Want to share my experience here as we seem to have lots of 992.2 issues across the board. Here's my story. My first brand new 911 experience, specced and ordered a 992.2 GTS that arrived in September. Plastic cosmetic damage on the middle of the front lower bumper on delivery. Part ordered and replaced a few weeks later. That is no big deal. However, 450 miles in, PSM and FAL failures. Car is towed to Rusnak Porsche Pasadena my home dealer where I ordered the car. FAL pump leaking. New pump installed a week later called to come get the car as it was "ready." Day later they called me an uber. En route to dealer to pickup the car on October 7 "please don't come car has new issues." Arrive to dealership, a mess of a situation. Car throwing codes. Engine misfiring on 3 cylinders surprisingly day before was ready to be picked up and magically now half the engine is misfiring. Get a call that parts need to be ordered from Germany, namely injectors, spark plugs, injector valves, and other related parts. It is now November 11 and I am told parts arrived and they are working on the car and it should be "ready" tomorrow. Utterly disappointed in Porsche. Brand new car with ~450 miles on the clock. Driven by a porsche enthusiast, followed break in procedure, didn't even get the car above 5k rpm or drive it hard. I opened a claim for a buy back with Porsche to see what their response will be.What's everyone's take on these issues? Similar experiences to share?
There's a gap between what the factory builds and what the dealer can fix. The parts listed seems like they're throwing parts at a problem.
From that standpoint, I would lemon the car as my experience with dealer fixing chronic issues and their lack of factory support is unsettling.
From that standpoint, I would lemon the car as my experience with dealer fixing chronic issues and their lack of factory support is unsettling.
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It can be an amicable process, where they buy it back without tarnishing the title. Be clear and inform the shop foreman your intentions to lemon the car. If you let it pass you may regret later , I know I did. If they don't play ball, lawyer up. It's the only time the consumer law actually protects us. After that, warranty claims are through arbitration which sides with the factory 90-95% of the time.
Originally Posted by John Mclane
I can tell you that the only time your warranty has any teeth is during lemon period. After that, you're at their mercy.It can be an amicable process, where they buy it back without tarnishing the title. Be clear and inform the shop foreman your intentions to lemon the car. If you let it pass you may regret later , I know I did. If they don't play ball, lawyer up. It's the only time the consumer law actually protects us. After that, warranty claims are through arbitration which sides with the factory 90-95% of the time.
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100% lemon that car. Youll never be able to enjoy it, youll always be thinking: What is going to break next.
Originally Posted by Haros
Cant say Ive had a smooth experience either, as a dealership lot attendant scratched my front bumper on delivery day, but that was a relatively minor issue compared to yours. I was also fairly compensated.100% lemon that car. Youll never be able to enjoy it, youll always be thinking: What is going to break next.
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From that standpoint, I would lemon the car as my experience with dealer fixing chronic issues and their lack of factory support is unsettling.
Thanks all. Originally Posted by John Mclane
There's a gap between what the factory builds and what the dealer can fix. The parts listed seems like they're throwing parts at a problem.From that standpoint, I would lemon the car as my experience with dealer fixing chronic issues and their lack of factory support is unsettling.
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100% lemon that car. Youll never be able to enjoy it, youll always be thinking: What is going to break next.
You can't "Lemon" a car until it usually has three provable similar defects within a certain period of time. An accumulation of different problems doesn't make a car (usually) a Lemon Law candidate. Check your state's laws, check here: https://www.lemonlawconnect.com/connectOriginally Posted by Haros
Cant say Ive had a smooth experience either, as a dealership lot attendant scratched my front bumper on delivery day, but that was a relatively minor issue compared to yours. I was also fairly compensated.100% lemon that car. Youll never be able to enjoy it, youll always be thinking: What is going to break next.
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