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Old Aug 19, 2025 | 08:25 PM
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Originally Posted by Pivot
Excellent thread, Scott, thanks for sharing the intel.

I am moving my questions from email to this forum, as others might find this relevant as well.

I have 992 T MY2023, 7-MT.

Is there an option for 450HP, with more torque at lower RPM? Not higher RPM.

My 992 T has 385PS @6’500 and 450Nm @1’950

IIRC 992 S had 450PS @6’500 and 530Nm @2’300

IIRC 992 GTS had 480PS @6’500 and 570Nm @2’300

I don’t want to trade PS for Nm at higher RPM. I would be more excited about higher Torque at lower RPM, e.g. 530Nm but at 1’950, not 2’300 RPM

thanks again for all the detailed info.
You must have a PDK?
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Old Aug 19, 2025 | 09:36 PM
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Originally Posted by Fullyield
You must have a PDK?
He mentioned having a ‘23 MT Carrera T.
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Old Aug 20, 2025 | 01:14 PM
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Originally Posted by M3Inline6
He mentioned having a ‘23 MT Carrera T.
M3 is right 7-sp MT 992 CT
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Old Aug 20, 2025 | 01:33 PM
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Originally Posted by Softronic
Why dont you call me as I'm not sure what you specifically want as yes the turbos are smaller so they are limited to where they can build the TQ compared to the S or GTS yet naturally would come in sooner to start with.

It sounds like you are looking for something a tuned file is already doing from the beginning as it's increased through the entire range.

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I spoke with Scott and I was very impressed. Unpretentious professional, running solid business.

Scott, thanks for taking the time to share your knowledge and experience.

I will have to upgrade my 992 with the Softonic mapping and experience what this car is capable of . . . I just need to nurse my injury first, so that I can drive again.

I will also have to look into brakes upgrade to preserve the golden ratio of acceleration to stopping power. But that is a separate/parallel discussion.
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Old Aug 20, 2025 | 01:58 PM
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Originally Posted by Pivot
I spoke with Scott and I was very impressed. Unpretentious professional, running solid business.

Scott, thanks for taking the time to share your knowledge and experience.

I will have to upgrade my 992 with the Softonic mapping and experience what this car is capable of . . . I just need to nurse my injury first, so that I can drive again.

I will also have to look into brakes upgrade to preserve the golden ratio of acceleration to stopping power. But that is a separate/parallel discussion.

He is a class act for sure. Looking forward to following your modification journey.
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Old Aug 20, 2025 | 03:38 PM
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Having not read 13 pages of posts completely, I'm not sure if this is covered, but I see that on the Softronic site he specifically mentions NOT eliminating cold start, while I know that is a feature available and often selected with those who opt for M-engineering's Coder/Tuner.

Scott's site says he can, but recommends against.

Curious why?
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Old Aug 20, 2025 | 03:43 PM
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Having not read 13 pages of posts completely, I'm not sure if this is covered, but I see that on the Softronic site he specifically mentions NOT eliminating cold start, while I know that is a feature available and often selected with those who opt for M-engineering's Coder/Tuner.

Scott's site says he can, but recommends against.

Curious why?
He mentioned benefits of the cold start process and related engine longevity due to the lubrication that occurs during cold start.
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Old Aug 20, 2025 | 03:49 PM
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Originally Posted by 3rdpedal
Having not read 13 pages of posts completely, I'm not sure if this is covered, but I see that on the Softronic site he specifically mentions NOT eliminating cold start, while I know that is a feature available and often selected with those who opt for M-engineering's Coder/Tuner.

Scott's site says he can, but recommends against.

Curious why?
Cold start serves multiple functions, including preheating the cats, ensuring adequate oil pressure, and initiating the heating cycle of the engine oil. For me, that last point is perhaps the most important. Engine oil serves a very critical role beyond simple lubricity, and brining it up to operating temperature before placing the engine under a load, is one of the best things an operator can do for the longevity of their car. There are other considerations regarding the lubricity of fuel, challenges with horizontal cylinders, and direct injectors, but discussion's around that subject tend to devolve into bickering.
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Old Aug 20, 2025 | 05:07 PM
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You are going to want cat preheating if you do/plan to run sport cats, they need to get up to temp to not trigger a CEL.
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Old Aug 20, 2025 | 05:30 PM
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Cold start serves multiple functions, including preheating the cats, ensuring adequate oil pressure, and initiating the heating cycle of the engine oil. For me, that last point is perhaps the most important. Engine oil serves a very critical role beyond simple lubricity, and brining it up to operating temperature before placing the engine under a load, is one of the best things an operator can do for the longevity of their car. There are other considerations regarding the lubricity of fuel, challenges with horizontal cylinders, and direct injectors, but discussion's around that subject tend to devolve into bickering.
My understanding is that temp needs to be above 180 before putting the car above 4000 rpms as a general guideline and that even with a cold start, the car won't approach that temperature for at least a few miles. One would be sitting there for 5-10 minutes waiting on adequate temp and that cold start high throttle drops long before ideal temp is reached.

Does cold start suggest one does not move the vehicle until after the completion of the 90 second cold start routine. It's not physically possible to drive it without breaking the cold start rpm and as a result placing the engine under a load greater than the cold start routine.
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Old Aug 20, 2025 | 05:37 PM
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I have always waiting to drive away until the idle kicks-down.
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Old Aug 20, 2025 | 05:40 PM
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Originally Posted by 3rdpedal
Having not read 13 pages of posts completely, I'm not sure if this is covered, but I see that on the Softronic site he specifically mentions NOT eliminating cold start, while I know that is a feature available and often selected with those who opt for M-engineering's Coder/Tuner.

Scott's site says he can, but recommends against.

Curious why?
Go to Scott’s website and read the FAQ’s. He provides an excellent explanation along the lines of cavemanmoore’s well reasoned post above. The reason many eliminate cold start is to keep the wife and neighbors from bitching when you crank it up at 6am with sport cats and muffler delete exhaust.

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Old Aug 20, 2025 | 05:59 PM
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Originally Posted by 3rdpedal
My understanding is that temp needs to be above 180 before putting the car above 4000 rpms as a general guideline and that even with a cold start, the car won't approach that temperature for at least a few miles. One would be sitting there for 5-10 minutes waiting on adequate temp and that cold start high throttle drops long before ideal temp is reached.

Does cold start suggest one does not move the vehicle until after the completion of the 90 second cold start routine. It's not physically possible to drive it without breaking the cold start rpm and as a result placing the engine under a load greater than the cold start routine.
Your reference to 180 degrees seems to be about engine coolant temp. I'm referring to engine oil temperature. I didn't mean to imply that one needed to let the car reach a certain temperature prior to operation, but rather that it's sensible to reach optimal engine oil temperature before placing the engine under heavy load. I usually let my car run through the pre-heat cycle, then allow it to reach optimal temps under normal driving conditions–limiting hard acceleration until the engine oil up to temp.

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I have always waiting to drive away until the idle kicks-down.
Yep, me too.
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Old Aug 20, 2025 | 06:04 PM
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Originally Posted by Bob Z.
I have always waiting to drive away until the idle kicks-down.
Really not needed, link ...the car warms up faster when not idling...
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Old Aug 20, 2025 | 08:09 PM
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Originally Posted by Tobeit
Really not needed, link ...the car warms up faster when not idling...
Fast idle stops once car is in motion.
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