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Old May 19, 2025 | 06:33 PM
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Hey y’all, I have a heavily optioned base 2025 992.2 I purchased new about six months ago. I just got the call for a T allocation due in August. I would lose some of the creature comforts on the T build I have on my 911 to keep the price in my favor. I wonder if it is worth the upgrade to go to the manual versus the PDK. I know it’s more of a driver focused car, but there are some creature comforts I don’t want to do without. Any opinions on this potential upgrade? Tia
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Do you want manual? ---> T
Do you want PDK? ---> Base
Do you want more of a grand tourer with "creature comforts"? ---> Base
Do you want a more driver focused car? ---> T

Keep it simple.
Old May 19, 2025 | 06:47 PM
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I went from a T (991.2) to a base (992.1) and now back again to a T. What creature comforts are important. Most options are available to spec on a T. The main thing is manual transmission. I was typically always in the camp to think the newest generation is always better but the switch from the T to the new generation base has me rethinking this. I miss my old T and it was all about the engagement it brought me.
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Old May 19, 2025 | 07:24 PM
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OP, what creature comforts will the T give up? Coming from a few GT3’s. It’s hard to say the T will be lacking in comfort. This is the first Carrera in a long time that I’ve gotten excited about. Porsche is making a statement with the T only being offered with a MT. Reminiscent of when Porsche offered the 991.2 Touring in MT only. It’s going to be a special car & I wouldn’t think twice before switching a base into a T. Especially the 2.2… Tack on sPASM, mLSD, - 7th gear, + GT3 shifter/linkage & the decision is easy. GL

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Old May 19, 2025 | 07:39 PM
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Originally Posted by Roadie!
Hey y’all, I have a heavily optioned base 2025 992.2 I purchased new about six months ago. I just got the call for a T allocation due in August. I would lose some of the creature comforts on the T build I have on my 911 to keep the price in my favor. I wonder if it is worth the upgrade to go to the manual versus the PDK. I know it’s more of a driver focused car, but there are some creature comforts I don’t want to do without. Any opinions on this potential upgrade? Tia
Despite sharing an engine, the standard Carrera and Carrera T are actually pretty different cars. Obviously, if you want a manual then your decision is made for you (the T). Same, if you want any interior color other than black (the base). Subjectively, the T feels faster. It's louder, lower, and stiffer. Subjectively, a loaded base feels like a significantly more expensive car owing to the availability of the nice interior goodies and quieter cabin. Objectively, the T is a faster around a track (2-3 seconds per lap at my ~2:00 minute per lap home track) due to the sport chassis and limited slip diff. Objectively the base is faster in a drag race (~0.5 sec over a 1/4 mile according to various published times) due to the PDK.

In my mind the standard Carrera is the lowest rung in the base --> S --> GTS --> Turbo --> Turbo S trim hierarchy. Meanwhile, the Carrera T is the lowest run in the T --> GTS w/ light weight package --> GT3 --> GT3 RS trim hierarchy. Both are similarly priced entry points into 911 ownership, but with two different customer profiles in mind.

Personally, I wish I could have one of each. The standard Carrera as a daily driver and date night car, and the T as a weekend car with a handful of track days thrown in. Force to choose one, I went for the T because for me a manual is none negotiable in a sports car.

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Old May 19, 2025 | 09:22 PM
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As an owner of 2 month old 2.2 base, noisier and stiffer would be a no go for me. The roads where I live stink, so I can't go stiffer and the 911 is already a bit loud. Just coming off 8 wonderful years with a 991.2 with MT, and would understand the move to the T if the call of the manual trumps all things. It is a special car and would likely hold value really well. Frankly loving the upgraded interior and the comfy options in the base. However, if an S allocation came along, it would be something to consider. I only have about 10 or so different Porsche C2S codes saved.
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Old May 19, 2025 | 09:31 PM
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Originally Posted by Roadie!
I just got the call for a T allocation due in August.
To date, my local dealer has received ZERO T allocations.
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Do you want manual? ---> T
Do you want PDK? ---> Base
Do you want more of a grand tourer with "creature comforts"? ---> Base
Do you want a more driver focused car? ---> T

Keep it simple.
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To date, my local dealer has received ZERO T allocations.
Neither of my two dealerships has received a T allocation.
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Originally Posted by Wilder
Do you want more of a grand tourer with "creature comforts"? ---> Base
I have a T on order. I'm not sure that there are any "creature comforts" available in the base model that are not available on the T. The base has more wheel options, more interior color options and the availability of things like the 930 interior package and Porsche crests on the headrests (with full leather interior). But other than those things, you can option a T very similarly to the base.
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Originally Posted by Roadie!
Hey y’all, I have a heavily optioned base 2025 992.2 I purchased new about six months ago. I just got the call for a T allocation due in August. I would lose some of the creature comforts on the T build I have on my 911 to keep the price in my favor. I wonder if it is worth the upgrade to go to the manual versus the PDK. I know it’s more of a driver focused car, but there are some creature comforts I don’t want to do without. Any opinions on this potential upgrade? Tia
I'm in the same situation. I picked up a Shade Green 992.2 Carrera in December without ADM and MSRP $156k. I have really come to appreciate the color. My SA called to tell me that he put my name on a T allocation for July build and possible Euro Delivery if we can get a delivery slot. There are a few things that have me hesitating on following through. What are the chances that I will get a ED slot and not get hosed by tariffs? The backup for that is to just cancel ED and let them ship it and see if tariffs get added on. The new T build won't have Innodrive, which I rarely use now. And if I stick with Shade Green, I would have to get the mirrors painted or get Carbon replacements because I don't think the Vanadium Grey mirrors will look good with Shade Green. The last factor will be the loss I will take on my current car at time of trade. My guess is that the dealer will low ball the trade offer. We'll see where we end up. I keep playing around with different configurations and I end up around the $160-165k mark. Considering that my T will have a few extras that aren't on my current car, I think that's a not bad.
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Old May 20, 2025 | 09:13 AM
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The base has more wheel options, more interior color options and the availability of things like the 930 interior package and Porsche crests on the headrests (with full leather interior).
if you're prioritizing paint and interior options over things like LSD, lighter weight, more noise, MT, etc. you are choosing a grand touring experience over a driving one.
It's not my opinion. PAG created two distinct models that appeal to those two distinct priorities. I'm not sure I understand your argument.
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I think the answer really depends on how much you want a manual. IMHO the type trans is by far the most important choice as far as options
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Sport suspension in the base would be a nice option. I wonder if you can code in the T suspension tuning via PIWIS or other coding mechanisms.

The base car is capable, but it's a little soft in my opinion. Forcing you to go S or T to get sport suspension is such a Porsche move.
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Old May 21, 2025 | 08:50 AM
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Thanks for the reply’s guys. I’ve decided the dark interior is a bit claustrophobic for me and would be hard to live with. Also I have a bit of arthritis in my big toe joint and think working the clutch in heavy traffic may get uncomfortable.I’m going to stick with my base until I really feel the need to upgrade.
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Originally Posted by Astraelraen
Sport suspension in the base would be a nice option. I wonder if you can code in the T suspension tuning via PIWIS or other coding mechanisms.

The base car is capable, but it's a little soft in my opinion. Forcing you to go S or T to get sport suspension is such a Porsche move.

Can't code in physical items like stiffer springs, larger sway bars or PTV+...which the "T" and "S" have, but the base doesn't.

The base is capable because all 992 models share the same platform...GT and Turbo models included.

Porsche isn't "forcing" anyone to get a sport suspension, higher HP, bigger brakes or special interior.

You have to "pay to play"...it's that way in almost every industry.

"If you can't run with the big dogs, you'd better stay on the porch"
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