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second drive after getting it back from workshop, it failed again with same error. this time under very slow and calm driving conditions. i hope mine is not a lemon...
Where is the member here that knows all about the lemon law? He had the 2023 GTS blow up on the way home from the dealership?? Porsche isn't just going to roll over and buy it back. Wonder why I can't find it?? Actually I don't.
second drive after getting it back from workshop, it failed again with same error. this time under very slow and calm driving conditions. i hope mine is not a lemon...
Oh man, bummed to hear that! These sorts of issues (I have only had one with a new car) are so frustrating because of the anxiety, the time it takes to diagnose/fix, and the amount of time you're left without your car. I had a BMW 335 (when they first went to the turbo engines) that was at BMW of North Haven CT for SEVEN WEEKS back in the late 2000's because they had to have engineers come in and analyze issues, get repeated parts, testing, etc. It was a nightmare, but I do have to say BMW NA stepped up and offered me some concessions. Anyway, best of luck and hope they get it right next time!!!
Took delivery of mine one week ago and dropped it back off last Friday. Had 20ish error messages (all orange) coming up including 4wd error (RWD only), lights, ABS, transmission (reverse not possible), etc. etc. after my first longer drive (c. 150km)
Stopped the car and errors went away for a while and after they returned and stayed. Called the dealership and they told me to bring it in and told me this "waterfall" of errors trigger each other and they have to diagnose. The car was driving fine except for the cruise control which was no longer working (no reduced power or anything like that).
Will be abroad for a while and only picking back up at the end of the month and hope they get it sorted. Car is brilliant and bloody fast... but fun did not last too long
Man this is tough to hear. Especially since my own 4 GTS just got to the dealership and I plan to drive it home 1,000 miles as its first trip.
I asked the dealer to check for all the latest software updates, and CHARGE THE BATTERY. The batteries sit at ports for a month, at sea for a month, then often at another port or dealer for a month. Crucially, a maintainer does not charge the battery- only maintains the current charge level. A low battery, or even hiccups in the voltage levels seems to be the cause of so many "phantom" faults on the latest Cayennes with the same digital PCM. My own kicks out a cascade of 8 faults once every couple months. None of them real, and they seem electrical/battery related. From other users, the faults seem especially prevelant on the hybrids. The thread on it is here: https://rennlist.com/forums/cayenne-...my-2024-a.html
A possibly major recent development is a user took his '25 Cayenne to the shop and they said they had fixed TWENTY 2024 and early 2025 Cayennes with similar faults that had their batteries in coding in the factory software set to "lead-acid" instead of "AGM" (they use AGM batteries). Jury is still out on whether this fixes the phantom faults but it sure might explain some battery related weirdness. I really hope Porsche has a TSB out on this for the Cayenne soon if one dealership is seeing so many new cars with factory software set incorrectly.
Man this is tough to hear. Especially since my own 4 GTS just got to the dealership and I plan to drive it home 1,000 miles as its first trip.
I asked the dealer to check for all the latest software updates, and CHARGE THE BATTERY. The batteries sit at ports for a month, at sea for a month, then often at another port or dealer for a month. Crucially, a maintainer does not charge the battery- only maintains the current charge level. A low battery, or even hiccups in the voltage levels seems to be the cause of so many "phantom" faults on the latest Cayennes with the same digital PCM. My own kicks out a cascade of 8 faults once every couple months. None of them real, and they seem electrical/battery related. From other users, the faults seem especially prevelant on the hybrids. The thread on it is here: https://rennlist.com/forums/cayenne-...my-2024-a.html
A possibly major recent development is a user took his '25 Cayenne to the shop and they said they had fixed TWENTY 2024 and early 2025 Cayennes with similar faults that had their batteries in coding in the factory software set to "lead-acid" instead of "AGM" (they use AGM batteries). Jury is still out on whether this fixes the phantom faults but it sure might explain some battery related weirdness. I really hope Porsche has a TSB out on this for the Cayenne soon if one dealership is seeing so many new cars with factory software set incorrectly.
I am planning on taking mine on a 2500 mile road trip to florida and back as well soon after taking delivery. I'm going to put about 300 miles on it before I leave though just to make sure I'm good.
Talked to my dealer last night, my car will have a plug to keep the battery charged! They want the big battery topped. Anyone get this information?? My 991 had the same plug. My car will be picked up tomorrow!! 6/4/25
Talked to my dealer last night, my car will have a plug to keep the battery charged! They want the big battery topped. Anyone get this information?? My 991 had the same plug. My car will be picked up tomorrow!! 6/4/25
Yes the 992.2s have a cigarette-lighter style plug underneath the glovebox. I keep my NOCO Genius5 maintainer plugged in there. Heads up, you need to follow this order with a maintainer or the car will turn off the plug after ~30 minutes and your charging will stop. I had to make this little sign for the garage wall to remind me of the order:
I'd also strongly recommend a more powerful charger you actually clip to the battery under the hood once in a while, not just a maintainer. I got an Antigravity SC-10 (10 Amp) charger + maintainer and found that despite plenty of driving and frequent maintainer use with my NOCO Genius5, my batteries on both my P-cars were low and still accepted quite a bit of charge with the 10 Amp charger. Note: the GTS evidently has a lithium battery under the hood, while the base uses an AGM battery. The chargers/maintainers MUST be set to the proper battery type.
I thought Porsche had confirmed that only the 12V battery could be maintained on a trickle charger and that the 400V battery is on a "closed" system and could only be charged by running the car in Sport+. Is that not accurate?
Last edited by Vicbastige; Jun 3, 2025 at 12:45 PM.
Reason: typo
I thought Porsche had confirmed that only the 12V battery could be maintained on a trickle charger and that the 400V battery is on a "closed" system and could only be charged by running the car in Sport+. Is that not accurate?
If it works the same way as on my Cayenne Hybrid, correct. The main "EV" battery is not chargeable with a trickle charger (plug-in in the Cayenne's case, driving in the GTS). For the weird PCM "phantom" errors that seem like the computer is having difficulties with weak voltage, I'm talking strictly about the user-accessible battery under the hood (which is AGM for the base and Lithium in the GTS). That's the battery that runs the PCM and gets VERY run-down sitting around during manufacturing/shipping/sitting at dealers. The lithium should lose charge more slowly than AGM, but it could be 6 months between when the battery is made and you pick your car up at the dealership, with barely a couple miles on the car.
Got it. The confusion for me is I thought with the .2 GTS, the 12V is no longer under the hood rather behind the seats, but it's the other way around. The 400V needs the motor or a flatbed to the dealer but he 12V can be maintained.
Got it. The confusion for me is I thought with the .2 GTS, the 12V is no longer under the hood rather behind the seats, but it's the other way around. The 400V needs the motor or a flatbed to the dealer but he 12V can be maintained.
You were correct...12v now sits behind the rear seats and the lithium battery is under the frunk hood.
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