The first honest 992.2 review?
#1
The first honest 992.2 review?
I'm a big fan of Luke'svideoa, he cones across as a very honest YouTuber.
I am looking forward to test driving it but this video has demotivated me a bit.
-annoying electronics
-start stop button
-digital display
-power steering dies on him
Thoughts?
I am looking forward to test driving it but this video has demotivated me a bit.
-annoying electronics
-start stop button
-digital display
-power steering dies on him
Thoughts?
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He mentioned some things like speed monitoring that I'm not sure is active in the US (at least yet). Plus, he wanted to disable LKA, but that's an optional feature I was careful to avoid, so no worries there. The disabling auto start/stop is an ongoing issue with more than just Porsches. I'm hoping to get that coded out. As far as the power steering goes, that is troubling, but there's not enough data yet to determine if it's an anomaly.
It's an interesting video, but one person's experience is just that.
Frankly, if the EU safety "features" are going to bleed into the US (looking at your California), this might be the last new sports car I order. I don't need somebody over my shoulder "keeping me safe from myself".
It's an interesting video, but one person's experience is just that.
Frankly, if the EU safety "features" are going to bleed into the US (looking at your California), this might be the last new sports car I order. I don't need somebody over my shoulder "keeping me safe from myself".
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He mentioned some things like speed monitoring that I'm not sure is active in the US (at least yet). Plus, he wanted to disable LKA, but that's an optional feature I was careful to avoid, so no worries there. The start/stop is an ongoing issue with more than just Porsches. I'm hoping to get that coded out. As far as the power steering goes, that is troubling, but there's not enough data yet to determine if it's an anomaly.
It's an interesting video, but one person's experience is just that.
It's an interesting video, but one person's experience is just that.
I couldn't find any info on the speed limit option, I am hoping it is an option. I have LKA in my Targa and it defaults to off when I start the engine. I manually have to turn it on, it looks like that is not the case with the. 2's.
At the end of the day, I think I'm just going to sit it out the. 2 and wait for the 994.
Cheers
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I have watched many of his videos, and agree he appears to be honest, maybe even pro-Porsche? Great post-production.
But here, I think he should have held off posting and given the dealership time to diagnose the issue.
So, what was his motivation? Clicks? If so, it takes away from his "journalistic" integrity...if that exists in social media.
Hope he didn't fill out a JD Power survey.
But here, I think he should have held off posting and given the dealership time to diagnose the issue.
So, what was his motivation? Clicks? If so, it takes away from his "journalistic" integrity...if that exists in social media.
Hope he didn't fill out a JD Power survey.
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I’d say the opposite, if he didn’t disclose the power steering issue out of “protecting” the brand, he’d be throwing away his journalistic integrity. It’s very much a US thing where journalists feel this “need” to protect large corporations, I suppose because they don’t want to bite the hand that feeds them. Dangerous situation for consumers.
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I’d say the opposite, if he didn’t disclose the power steering issue out of “protecting” the brand, he’d be throwing away his journalistic integrity. It’s very much a US thing where journalists feel this “need” to protect large corporations, I suppose because they don’t want to bite the hand that feeds them. Dangerous situation for consumers.
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991 generation wil be the future 964!
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Pretty sure some of his issues are non-issues. On my ‘24 Cayenne with essentially the same PCM, you have to be logged into the car as a user in order for it to save your settings preferences. Most loaner/press vehicles aren’t set up like this and I’ve seen several reviews where the PCM is in “guest” mode. My Cayenne gave me that speed warning- first day. I turned it off immediately and I’ve never seen it again. LKA is easily defeatable with the small button on the bottom of the left stalk. You hold it in, the LKA icon goes from green to grey with a slash thru it, and will stay that way thru multiple trips unless you re-enable it.
He’s coming from his own GT3, so almost any 911 is a downgrade at that point. If you’re going to hate on digital gauges, you probably shouldn’t review new cars for a living and stick to the classics.
The power steering going it is very concerning, and I’m glad he left that in and also glad he said he’ll update it. The power steering plus option for this car is super cheap because it’s literally just a software enablement Porsche can charge $200 for. Hopefully that means his steering failure is a software glitch instead of a hardware failure.
I have this exact 992.2 in Lugano blue and chalk interior coming in, so I loved the up-close look at it. And I’ll ask the dealer to look for any bulletins on the power steering (which I’m getting).
He’s coming from his own GT3, so almost any 911 is a downgrade at that point. If you’re going to hate on digital gauges, you probably shouldn’t review new cars for a living and stick to the classics.
The power steering going it is very concerning, and I’m glad he left that in and also glad he said he’ll update it. The power steering plus option for this car is super cheap because it’s literally just a software enablement Porsche can charge $200 for. Hopefully that means his steering failure is a software glitch instead of a hardware failure.
I have this exact 992.2 in Lugano blue and chalk interior coming in, so I loved the up-close look at it. And I’ll ask the dealer to look for any bulletins on the power steering (which I’m getting).
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Why did he order LKA? Everyone disables start/stop by either switching to sport or individual mode. The issue of the speed warning in the EU was mentioned here before, not sure if that is present in the US. Things like that are only going to get worse in the EU as their government basically hate the ICE powered car and personal transportation in general. The US is just a few years behind them, so buy now or stay in the pre-owned market for the rest of your life.
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Why did he order LKA? Everyone disables start/stop by either switching to sport or individual mode. The issue of the speed warning in the EU was mentioned here before, not sure if that is present in the US. Things like that are only going to get worse in the EU as their government basically hate the ICE powered car and personal transportation in general. The US is just a few years behind them, so buy now or stay in the pre-owned market for the rest of your life.
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Porsche really needs to ease up on the cross platform component sharing with the things that the driver can see and/or feel. Instrumentation and Haptics are a huge part of what has made a Porsche a Porsche for a long time. It's as if Porsche decided that the 914 was the perfect marketing strategy. If Porsche wants to compete with Ferrari or any other super premium cars, this 992.2 is NOT the way to do this. IMHO, the 992.2 is now squarely competing with the Corvette, but at a significantly higher price point and maybe loosing the technological edge as well. If the 911 is going to remain an ICE powered sports car, Porsche needs to avoid adopting the look and feel of a Tesla or a Lucid interior..
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he said it is the first 911 that will depreciate as soon you drive out from dealership. That is concerning...
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Nothing I’ve seen from the .2 has made it more desirable to me than the .1.
I think the changes were more to help Porsche cut costs and increase production efficiency than to benefit the driver.
Did people ask for an all digital dash or a push button start? I cant imagine they did.
There were some nitpicks,(for example the wet warning is telling you to switch to wet mode, so dont expect it to go away when you switch to sport mode.). But God help us in the US if we have that speed monitoring thing…
I think the changes were more to help Porsche cut costs and increase production efficiency than to benefit the driver.
Did people ask for an all digital dash or a push button start? I cant imagine they did.
There were some nitpicks,(for example the wet warning is telling you to switch to wet mode, so dont expect it to go away when you switch to sport mode.). But God help us in the US if we have that speed monitoring thing…
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I swear, I may just say FU to pubco Porsche and buy only pre-997 911s from now on.
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