The first honest 992.2 review?
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You missed my point. Porsche marketing will black ball anyone who gives a negative review....truthful or not. "No soup for you!"
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Seems like he did not research the things that annoyed him - most can be disabled or not ordered.
Regarding depreciation, does he have a crystal ball? Does the 911 base now has more depreciation because it is 10k cheaper?
By the way I agree he is a fine reviewer but this review was kind of shallow and not because he did like the car.
But I will try to find his 992.1 base car review - if someone liked the 992.1 base, what is the reason not to like the 992.2 base which is the same car with bigger turbos and a few other improvements?
Regarding depreciation, does he have a crystal ball? Does the 911 base now has more depreciation because it is 10k cheaper?
By the way I agree he is a fine reviewer but this review was kind of shallow and not because he did like the car.
But I will try to find his 992.1 base car review - if someone liked the 992.1 base, what is the reason not to like the 992.2 base which is the same car with bigger turbos and a few other improvements?
He never said it couldn’t be turned off but you have to do it each time you start the car and go to subset of menus.
He also filmed getting bunch of warnings during his drive about slippery road etc even though he was in Sport mode.
He mentioned Depreciation because the base car costs significantly more now than in the past so the value proposition is not as strong from the outset.
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This is assuming that they wont continue to jack up the prices year over year. From the initial release of the 992 to now , the base msrp has increased by 20k. The y/y increase in starting msrp is what has benefited value retention. I would expect to see a 2-3k bump in starting msrp for model year 2026. so this trend should continue.
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He also filmed getting bunch of warnings during his drive about slippery road etc even though he was in Sport mode.
He mentioned Depreciation because the base car costs significantly more now than in the past so the value proposition is not as strong from the outset.
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This is assuming that they wont continue to jack up the prices year over year. From the initial release of the 992 to now , the base msrp has increased by 20k. The y/y increase in starting msrp is what has benefited value retention. I would expect to see a 2-3k bump in starting msrp for model year 2026. so this trend should continue.
1) Porsche hasn't yet seen sales of the 911 deteriorate due to higher prices. It is inevitable that at some point they will and they will need to chill out on price increases and growing their margin at the expense of customer satisfaction. I think the 992.2 could be the generation where this is realized (and I have one of the first 992.2s on the way)
2) The competition is also raising prices. I would love to jump ship and try something else but Mercedes and Aston Martin all raised their prices considerably even more than Porsche. There simply aren't very many options that I can point at and say I would feel better about than a 911 --- the whole car market is going in the wrong direction. I'm talking about the base and lower trim 911s that I see as a daily driver vs the more higher end stuff which competes with truly exotic brands.
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I feel like Luke's reviews are more about him, him getting coffee, him driving around scenic roads, etc. than the actual car itself.
Whatever car he is reviewing is only there to allow him to showcase himself, hear his own voice, and pan around the scenic views of Switzerland and the rest of Europe.
High production quality, low information quotient.
Whatever car he is reviewing is only there to allow him to showcase himself, hear his own voice, and pan around the scenic views of Switzerland and the rest of Europe.
High production quality, low information quotient.
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I don't even see the LKA option in the .2, it looks like they call it ALK now and its folded into the Innodrive option.
I think Porsche has a big problem in the Cayenne slot. They have lost the "chic/status" factor that the top two Range Rover models have, as well the the G-wagon from Mercedes. I think people are cross shopping the Cayenne against the X5 and the GLE and the Porsche is much more expensive and only appeals to people who want the Porsche brand at any price.
I think Porsche has a big problem in the Cayenne slot. They have lost the "chic/status" factor that the top two Range Rover models have, as well the the G-wagon from Mercedes. I think people are cross shopping the Cayenne against the X5 and the GLE and the Porsche is much more expensive and only appeals to people who want the Porsche brand at any price.
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I don't even see the LKA option in the .2, it looks like they call it ALK now and its folded into the Innodrive option.
I think Porsche has a big problem in the Cayenne slot. They have lost the "chic/status" factor that the top two Range Rover models have, as well the the G-wagon from Mercedes. I think people are cross shopping the Cayenne against the X5 and the GLE and the Porsche is much more expensive and only appeals to people who want the Porsche brand at any price.
I think Porsche has a big problem in the Cayenne slot. They have lost the "chic/status" factor that the top two Range Rover models have, as well the the G-wagon from Mercedes. I think people are cross shopping the Cayenne against the X5 and the GLE and the Porsche is much more expensive and only appeals to people who want the Porsche brand at any price.
Those SUVs play in the Cullinan and Bentayga sphere. I don't think the Cayenne was ever there to begin with.
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I feel like Luke's reviews are more about him, him getting coffee, him driving around scenic roads, etc. than the actual car itself.
Whatever car he is reviewing is only there to allow him to showcase himself, hear his own voice, and pan around the scenic views of Switzerland and the rest of Europe.
High production quality, low information quotient.
Whatever car he is reviewing is only there to allow him to showcase himself, hear his own voice, and pan around the scenic views of Switzerland and the rest of Europe.
High production quality, low information quotient.
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Not the Range Rover Sport. The Land Rover interiors are a knockout.
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I agree with ipse dixit Luke's videos are definitely not a wealth of information. They're slick driving videos showcasing the Swiss alps as much as the cars. Porsche would be unwise to blackball him. He's made some beautiful videos featuring their cars.
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I believe he has a 991.2 GT3 RS. Not sure who this straw man is you're referring to.
I agree with ipse dixit Luke's videos are definitely not a wealth of information. They're slick driving videos showcasing the Swiss alps as much as the cars. Porsche would be unwise to blackball him. He's made some beautiful videos featuring their cars.
I agree with ipse dixit Luke's videos are definitely not a wealth of information. They're slick driving videos showcasing the Swiss alps as much as the cars. Porsche would be unwise to blackball him. He's made some beautiful videos featuring their cars.
Luke posted this ? I was referring to the the poster of the vid. Move along
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