FirstPorscheGT3

I agree. But the MY24 cars are selling around 300-320k. So it’s not that big of a leap if the adm is in the 50-70k range.

Ksdaoski

No, I didn't....
I believe customers that would have been considering 992.2 S manual or 992.2 GTS manual, will be pushed into the 992.2 Turbo manual (and the 5xx) HP vs pushed down in to a 992.2 T (395hp)
Especially if you're an existing 992.1 S/GTS manual owner, who's used to and expecting 450-485hp.....most will not be willing to trade down to 395; will some, I suppose. However, many many many more will be slotted up to the Turbo manual, vs slotted down to a manual T.

Keadog

Agree but less so if you happen to have one.

Keadog

Ah, ok, got it.

Keadog

It will put at least some people (like me) out of the price range for a TT, especially if they are both hard to get and have a stiff ADM. If I wanted a new car and was giving up an open top, I would be happy with the T. My 991.2 C4 cab was one of my favorite cars to drive - it had plenty of power without a tune (and the T will still be tunable, correct?). I would probably still have it if not for the crazy values during COVID.

rasetsu

Will the ZR1 be sold in Europe? I'm sure there are some enthusiast engineers at Porsche who are annoyed at being constrained by the environmental laws in Europe that do not apply to GM making cars for North America. Perhaps Porsche will offer a US market only variant that isn't just a style package. They have done so in other markets before. But would Porsche be able to engineer and mass produce a robustly reliable flat 6 to make 1000 hp? Surely all the pitchforks and torches be bought out at Home Depot by the purists if Porsche crammed a V8 into the 911.

pitt911

are suggesting that ADM on GT cars will last forever
I don't agree with that
by significantly increasing pricing , Porsche is taking some of the ADM away from dealers and I don't think ADM game is sustainable for the long term

R N M

My dealer has over 150 people on wait list for GT3 with deposits - ADMs are not going anywhere until Porsche increases production numbers to satisfy demand.

AlfaM5

The pandora's box with luxury brands is wide open. The only thing that will change high prices, markups and wait lists is total war or big financial collapse. There is still too much money everywhere and in every age group and with the constant media bombardment, including right here at RL, nothing will change. This is exuberant demand coupled with fake supply from manufacturers.

pitt911

I heard the same thing about Z06 plus other cars
it is easy to throw 5 k deposit that you can get back vs coughing 300 k on a GT3
I can bet you dinner that out of 150 people 10 or less will go through

Scott P

All I want to say is I sure am glad I got my 992T 7MT in 2023.

R N M

It doesn’t matter - the dealer just calls down the list until someone bites at the ADM. There is just way too much demand vs supply.

How many allocations does a dealer get for a GT3 - maybe 2 to 3 per month if that. They have to also make their vip clients happy first at msrp.

Drifting

I have a similar theory. This is Porsches way of getting people to pay more for a manual 911. First you had to buy an 991 S to get a manual, now you need a Turbo to get a manual !

Porsche has also created additional buyers for the GT3 who want a proper sports car with a manual.
RS is DCT only as almost all RS competitor “supercars”

black_frog

I've heard rumors that the 992.2T will have an open top variant. Anyone else?

6sigma

First I've heard of that rumor. Seems unlikely but who knows. No reason they couldn't do it.