992.2 GT3, C2S, T , Turbo rumors
#31
Rennlist Member
![Default](https://rennlist.com/forums/images/icons/icon1.gif)
I agree. But the MY24 cars are selling around 300-320k. So it’s not that big of a leap if the adm is in the 50-70k range.
#32
![Default](https://rennlist.com/forums/images/icons/icon1.gif)
No, I didn't....
I believe customers that would have been considering 992.2 S manual or 992.2 GTS manual, will be pushed into the 992.2 Turbo manual (and the 5xx) HP vs pushed down in to a 992.2 T (395hp)
Especially if you're an existing 992.1 S/GTS manual owner, who's used to and expecting 450-485hp.....most will not be willing to trade down to 395; will some, I suppose. However, many many many more will be slotted up to the Turbo manual, vs slotted down to a manual T.
I believe customers that would have been considering 992.2 S manual or 992.2 GTS manual, will be pushed into the 992.2 Turbo manual (and the 5xx) HP vs pushed down in to a 992.2 T (395hp)
Especially if you're an existing 992.1 S/GTS manual owner, who's used to and expecting 450-485hp.....most will not be willing to trade down to 395; will some, I suppose. However, many many many more will be slotted up to the Turbo manual, vs slotted down to a manual T.
The following users liked this post:
alaris (07-29-2024)
#35
![Default](https://rennlist.com/forums/images/icons/icon1.gif)
No, I didn't....
I believe customers that would have been considering 992.2 S manual or 992.2 GTS manual, will be pushed into the 992.2 Turbo manual (and the 5xx) HP vs pushed down in to a 992.2 T (395hp)
Especially if you're an existing 992.1 S/GTS manual owner, who's used to and expecting 450-485hp.....most will not be willing to trade down to 395; will some, I suppose. However, many many many more will be slotted up to the Turbo manual, vs slotted down to a manual T.
I believe customers that would have been considering 992.2 S manual or 992.2 GTS manual, will be pushed into the 992.2 Turbo manual (and the 5xx) HP vs pushed down in to a 992.2 T (395hp)
Especially if you're an existing 992.1 S/GTS manual owner, who's used to and expecting 450-485hp.....most will not be willing to trade down to 395; will some, I suppose. However, many many many more will be slotted up to the Turbo manual, vs slotted down to a manual T.
#36
![Default](https://rennlist.com/forums/images/icons/icon1.gif)
All the recent news from Porsche on 911 has been negative in my eyes - more digitization, hybrid tech, lack of manuals and worse styling.
i hate to say it but the ZR1 announcement should really annoy 911 engineers. A flat plane crank V8 making over 1,000hp without any hybrid crap.
The only positive is the RWD Turbo manual but it will be over $250k and impossible to get without significant ADM.
i hate to say it but the ZR1 announcement should really annoy 911 engineers. A flat plane crank V8 making over 1,000hp without any hybrid crap.
The only positive is the RWD Turbo manual but it will be over $250k and impossible to get without significant ADM.
#37
Rennlist Member
![Default](https://rennlist.com/forums/images/icons/icon1.gif)
I don't agree with that
by significantly increasing pricing , Porsche is taking some of the ADM away from dealers and I don't think ADM game is sustainable for the long term
The following users liked this post:
FirstPorscheGT3 (07-29-2024)
#38
![Default](https://rennlist.com/forums/images/icons/icon1.gif)
My dealer has over 150 people on wait list for GT3 with deposits - ADMs are not going anywhere until Porsche increases production numbers to satisfy demand.
#39
![Default](https://rennlist.com/forums/images/icons/icon1.gif)
The pandora's box with luxury brands is wide open. The only thing that will change high prices, markups and wait lists is total war or big financial collapse. There is still too much money everywhere and in every age group and with the constant media bombardment, including right here at RL, nothing will change. This is exuberant demand coupled with fake supply from manufacturers.
#40
Rennlist Member
![Default](https://rennlist.com/forums/images/icons/icon1.gif)
it is easy to throw 5 k deposit that you can get back vs coughing 300 k on a GT3
I can bet you dinner that out of 150 people 10 or less will go through
The following users liked this post:
FirstPorscheGT3 (07-29-2024)
#41
Rennlist Member
![Default](https://rennlist.com/forums/images/icons/icon1.gif)
All I want to say is I sure am glad I got my 992T 7MT in 2023.
The following 6 users liked this post by Scott P:
adm63 (07-30-2024),
AJ_Judi (07-29-2024),
AlfaM5 (07-29-2024),
black_frog (07-30-2024),
Mr.Bourne (07-30-2024),
and 1 others liked this post.
#42
![Default](https://rennlist.com/forums/images/icons/icon1.gif)
How many allocations does a dealer get for a GT3 - maybe 2 to 3 per month if that. They have to also make their vip clients happy first at msrp.
Last edited by R N M; 07-29-2024 at 07:46 PM.
#43
Rennlist Member
Thread Starter
![Default](https://rennlist.com/forums/images/icons/icon1.gif)
I think it makes a lot of sense for a publicly traded company to eliminate the manual from the S and push manual drivers to a larger engine Turbo. I think Turbo models were only like 25% of Turbo/Turbo S sales. Most people seem to just take the top dog Turbo S if they wanted a Turbo model. Now there's an actual reason to buy a Turbo, because you want a manual. And Porsche increased the average selling price of a manual by eliminating the S option and pushing the Turbo model. Smart.
Porsche has also created additional buyers for the GT3 who want a proper sports car with a manual.
RS is DCT only as almost all RS competitor “supercars”
Last edited by Drifting; 07-30-2024 at 12:58 AM.
#44
![Default](https://rennlist.com/forums/images/icons/icon1.gif)
#45