992.2 GT3, C2S, T , Turbo rumors
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I think it makes a lot of sense for a publicly traded company to eliminate the manual from the S and push manual drivers to a larger engine Turbo. I think Turbo models were only like 25% of Turbo/Turbo S sales. Most people seem to just take the top dog Turbo S if they wanted a Turbo model. Now there's an actual reason to buy a Turbo, because you want a manual. And Porsche increased the average selling price of a manual by eliminating the S option and pushing the Turbo model. Smart.
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It'll be interesting to see how a manual RWD Turbo plays out. I'm 3rd on a list for a GT3, and have put my name in for this rumored manual Turbo, but have been told that will have a significant wait list. If people had a choice between a manual GT3 or Turbo, what would you go for assuming you don't have the funds for both?
Does the timeline affect you? If yes the GT3 will be delivered 6-10 months before the Turbo.
If you are third on the list go and pay a significant deposit in September and try to secure the GT3 in my opinion - it is launching very soon. The deposit advice in my opinion is just an attempt to help the dealer and convince him to really allocate the car to you - whatever we say I think it helps, you are giving them money. Except if people think this does not help in the US, which is really weird - logically and financially thinking.
Then if you get the GT3, you enjoy it and you wait and if you have a choice you can decide if the Turbo is more interesting in 1 year or so - you are not loosing money on the GT3.
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alaris (07-29-2024)
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510bhp and no manual and some form of hybridization are facts.
Let's find the engine displacement to complete what the car specs are.
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So if I’m reading correctly, there will be no open top options with a manual going forward? If the Boxster really goes all EV, that leaves a Miata as the only choice?
Turbo cab manual? That couldn’t be much more than my Targa 4S, right?
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Turbo cab manual? That couldn’t be much more than my Targa 4S, right?
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No manual convertibles right now is correct
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It is a very difficult decision. Both would be great even if we do not know much about the Turbo.
Does the timeline affect you? If yes the GT3 will be delivered 6-10 months before the Turbo.
If you are third on the list go and pay a significant deposit in September and try to secure the GT3 in my opinion - it is launching very soon. The deposit advice in my opinion is just an attempt to help the dealer and convince him to really allocate the car to you - whatever we say I think it helps, you are giving them money. Except if people think this does not help in the US, which is really weird - logically and financially thinking.
Then if you get the GT3, you enjoy it and you wait and if you have a choice you can decide if the Turbo is more interesting in 1 year or so - you are not loosing money on the GT3.
Does the timeline affect you? If yes the GT3 will be delivered 6-10 months before the Turbo.
If you are third on the list go and pay a significant deposit in September and try to secure the GT3 in my opinion - it is launching very soon. The deposit advice in my opinion is just an attempt to help the dealer and convince him to really allocate the car to you - whatever we say I think it helps, you are giving them money. Except if people think this does not help in the US, which is really weird - logically and financially thinking.
Then if you get the GT3, you enjoy it and you wait and if you have a choice you can decide if the Turbo is more interesting in 1 year or so - you are not loosing money on the GT3.
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I was just at my Porsche dealer signing documents for a new car. The sales manager told me
1- 992.2 GT3 announcement will be in a month and is Not hybrid.
2- 992.2 Carrera S won’t be announced until Jan 2026, and will NOT have a manual option
3- 992.2 Carrera T will be manual only.
4- 992.2 Turbo S, and GT2RS will be hybrid/PDK
5- there will be a manual 911 Turbo, that is RWD only, like the sport classic, but without some goodies.
6- 718 EV announcement likely in 2 months.
Personally I was shocked that the .2 Carrera S won’t have a manual option. But the more I though about it, this is all a business decision to extract more money for its customers.
A manual T costs about $10,000 than regular base Carrera. The RWD Turbo manual option will cost far more than a C2S manual.
Porsche will still “offer a 911 manual”, but at a much higher cost to 911 owners who must have a manual.
What do you all think about 1-6?
1- 992.2 GT3 announcement will be in a month and is Not hybrid.
2- 992.2 Carrera S won’t be announced until Jan 2026, and will NOT have a manual option
3- 992.2 Carrera T will be manual only.
4- 992.2 Turbo S, and GT2RS will be hybrid/PDK
5- there will be a manual 911 Turbo, that is RWD only, like the sport classic, but without some goodies.
6- 718 EV announcement likely in 2 months.
Personally I was shocked that the .2 Carrera S won’t have a manual option. But the more I though about it, this is all a business decision to extract more money for its customers.
A manual T costs about $10,000 than regular base Carrera. The RWD Turbo manual option will cost far more than a C2S manual.
Porsche will still “offer a 911 manual”, but at a much higher cost to 911 owners who must have a manual.
What do you all think about 1-6?
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I was just at my Porsche dealer signing documents for a new car. The sales manager told me
1- 992.2 GT3 announcement will be in a month and is Not hybrid.
2- 992.2 Carrera S won’t be announced until Jan 2026, and will NOT have a manual option
3- 992.2 Carrera T will be manual only.
4- 992.2 Turbo S, and GT2RS will be hybrid/PDK
5- there will be a manual 911 Turbo, that is RWD only, like the sport classic, but without some goodies.
6- 718 EV announcement likely in 2 months.
Personally I was shocked that the .2 Carrera S won’t have a manual option. But the more I though about it, this is all a business decision to extract more money for its customers.
A manual T costs about $10,000 than regular base Carrera. The RWD Turbo manual option will cost far more than a C2S manual.
Porsche will still “offer a 911 manual”, but at a much higher cost to 911 owners who must have a manual.
What do you all think about 1-6?
1- 992.2 GT3 announcement will be in a month and is Not hybrid.
2- 992.2 Carrera S won’t be announced until Jan 2026, and will NOT have a manual option
3- 992.2 Carrera T will be manual only.
4- 992.2 Turbo S, and GT2RS will be hybrid/PDK
5- there will be a manual 911 Turbo, that is RWD only, like the sport classic, but without some goodies.
6- 718 EV announcement likely in 2 months.
Personally I was shocked that the .2 Carrera S won’t have a manual option. But the more I though about it, this is all a business decision to extract more money for its customers.
A manual T costs about $10,000 than regular base Carrera. The RWD Turbo manual option will cost far more than a C2S manual.
Porsche will still “offer a 911 manual”, but at a much higher cost to 911 owners who must have a manual.
What do you all think about 1-6?
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All the recent news from Porsche on 911 has been negative in my eyes - more digitization, hybrid tech, lack of manuals and worse styling.
i hate to say it but the ZR1 announcement should really annoy 911 engineers. A flat plane crank V8 making over 1,000hp without any hybrid crap.
The only positive is the RWD Turbo manual but it will be over $250k and impossible to get without significant ADM.
i hate to say it but the ZR1 announcement should really annoy 911 engineers. A flat plane crank V8 making over 1,000hp without any hybrid crap.
The only positive is the RWD Turbo manual but it will be over $250k and impossible to get without significant ADM.
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I think the new GT3 will have a significant increase in price like the new GTS did, it will probably start around $200k so with ADM, it will be $300-350k.
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I see one bright spot in this news: The option of getting a Turbo with a manual. Thats filling a gap in the 992.1.
No more manual Targas is not good news.
No more manual Targas is not good news.
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