Jrezaf

I fear this will be filed away as unobtainium or with GT level or greater ADM 🤔.

detansinn

Jonny is a journalist who was the first to break the news on the Sport Classic, S/T, and the Dakar before they became public -- I would not categorize him as a "brand ambassador". He has a proven track record of being able to get reliable insider Porsche information. Hence, I give his posts a lot of weight.

detansinn

The T fan fiction will never end. There are no NA Carreras coming. Porsche is going to save that CO2 fleet numbers impact for the high margin GT cars. An 400HP NA Carrera T would feel very slow compared to the 992.2 Base Carrera.

pitt911

I am predicting they will do two editions of the T
regular T with the base engine 400 HP and MT available
then a special edition T with 450 HP + with MT and some other tweaks " helper springs, bigger brakes etc . .They have the recipe in the books from the current GTS , and people will die over it

Staffie Guy

From a selfish perspective, I hope the manual is gone so my 23 manual S will be partially depreciation protected.

A smart move by Porsche would be to issue the T in a couple of years featuring a 6 or 7 speed manual. That would sell like hotcakes IMHO.

JayHantz

Agreed, Johnny has often been very critical of Porsche, especially with the seven-speed MT; there was one of these "AMA Instagrams" where he told people to spec a PDK on a GTS.

inthesticks

I think we all need to move past denial and on our way towards acceptance. Porsche held the torch for manuals longer than almost everyone. They need to maintain their performance edge and move towards hybrids. I’m not the least bit surprised that the S wont have a manual, since the gts wont. This is the new reality, unfortunately.

If porsche offers a manual it will be a novelty feature on a limited special non-hybrid build, or the NA GTs (hopefully).

RatherJaded

I never categorized Jonny specifically as a “brand ambassador.” I simply stated that Jonny is speculating like brand ambassadors, a.k.a. dealer sales representatives as their official title is “Porsche Brand Ambassador.”

Furthermore I am well aware whom Jonny is and if you bother to listen to last weeks Spike’s Car Radio, he as well as Spike and Zuckerman repeatedly admit that they do not always provide the most factual information.

Fullyield

+1. If it is available at all, Porsche is going to make you pay out the a$$ for it. It’s the Porsche way. I doubt Porsche marketing would want a $126,000 “T” competing with the RWD MT TT model which will have a starting MSRP of about $210,000. I hope I am wrong.

BTW- silversurfer6 hit the 992.2GTS reveal on the head about a week before. He also says 992S will be detuned hybrid system (meaning no MT) but a TT RWD model available in MT. We should know soon when 992S production starts.

3uros

Not surprised...the writing has been on the wall, especially if the S gets a detuned version of the GTS engine.

loxxrider

I'm thinking it might end up being a "tuned up" version of the base engine (which has GTS turbos now). In other words, maybe it'll inherit the GTS' old setup. It would make sense from the standpoint of parts crossover with the base and it'd help to keep the GTS and S substantially differentiated.

For me, the other interesting question is what will they do with the Turbo and Turbo S? I think it'll be a hybrid like the GTS but with a bigger battery, bigger turbo (or more boost), and bigger electric motor. Thoughts?

Fullyield

Well, it is all speculation until Porsche makes an announcement. But, none of the historically reliable intelligence is pointing towards a “tuned up” version for the S ……but the intell could be wrong. Your guess is as good as anyone else’s.

My GUESS is the Turbo (not the S) will be the “tune up” version with RWD and MT ala a Sport Classic starting at $210-220k. Turbo S will be AWD, PDK, T Hybrid on steroids starting at $230-250k. Porsche can make anyone happy IF have more than $210k to spend on a sports car. Just a guess.

So, I think the non-hybrid model line uses the 9A2 engine in different displacements/configurations in Base (PDK only), RWD Turbo (PDK or MT) and GT cars (PDK or MT). The T hybrid model line will use the 9A3 engine in the S, GTS and Turbo S, - all PDK of course because of MGU-K. The 9A2 engine will be slowly phased out.

AlexCeres

Ya’all need Valium. The entire 922.2 line up hasn’t been announced yet.

Fullyield

Speaking of being on Valium, I think you meant 992.2 and need to read. That is why the word GUESS is capitalized Karen.

AlexCeres

Ooo. Typo police. Mad respect.

look you guys want to froth at the mouth and carry on in a tizzy like yappy little show dogs about how Porsche is ruining itself and betraying its heritage and blah blah blah before even hearing what that entire 992.2 line up is, well, I’ve got a delightful bourbon and bag of popcorn to watch some fools ritually humiliate themselves.