After 2 laps with .2 GTS which performance do you expect?
#77
They don’t. But do run in WEC. Here’s a good video that explains some of the tech detail for those interested.
https://www.redbull.com/us-en/videos...6-.com-version
https://www.redbull.com/us-en/videos...6-.com-version
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#79
Your’re are the one that continues to make the point they have no reference to street cars. Wasn’t my point or position. None of the race series are comparable to a GT or street car. But these types of technology advances usually start in racing, and trickle into production cars, be it for performance or efficiency.
WEC racing is maybe a better example. And Porsche is a major player in this series. Porsche racing development, trickles into Porsche GT cars, very clear path Porsche uses in Marketing and brand. And down into other 911 models. And now the beloved GTS.
And for those interested here a “Porsche” example of what’s possible with a no rules car with similar tech.
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#80
The comparison is around the hybrid technology with small battery which is similar. Specifically in this case based on commentary around single run performance, battery regen, and usage of the technology and over for track runs. If you think F1 is a level playing field, you haven’t been watching.
#81
If the “he” you are referring to is me, I explained above why I shared the F1 example. Only in reference to how similar tech is used in racing which was related to the OP thought. Battery usage, regen, etc.in his example. Only shared for those that maybe don’t watch racing, and might be interested how similar tech is used in racing. Wasn’t connecting F1 to the current Porsche GTS hybrid. Re-read my posts. Only a share for those interested.
Your’re are the one that continues to make the point they have no reference to street cars. Wasn’t my point or position. None of the race series are comparable to a GT or street car. But these types of technology advances usually start in racing, and trickle into production cars, be it for performance or efficiency.
WEC racing is maybe a better example. And Porsche is a major player in this series. Porsche racing development, trickles into Porsche GT cars, very clear path Porsche uses in Marketing and brand. And down into other 911 models. And now the beloved GTS.
And for those interested here a “Porsche” example of what’s possible with a no rules car with similar tech.
https://youtu.be/J7bG9sP0jGg?si=UGvV70ukUk2wJ2yc
Your’re are the one that continues to make the point they have no reference to street cars. Wasn’t my point or position. None of the race series are comparable to a GT or street car. But these types of technology advances usually start in racing, and trickle into production cars, be it for performance or efficiency.
WEC racing is maybe a better example. And Porsche is a major player in this series. Porsche racing development, trickles into Porsche GT cars, very clear path Porsche uses in Marketing and brand. And down into other 911 models. And now the beloved GTS.
And for those interested here a “Porsche” example of what’s possible with a no rules car with similar tech.
https://youtu.be/J7bG9sP0jGg?si=UGvV70ukUk2wJ2yc
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Well, it’s brake, not break, but I do drive WOT all the time on track. As my first instructor said, there is no coasting on the track . You’re just mashing different pedals at different times. So, the Porsche engineer’s unfortunate comment unintentionally started this controversy so Porsche needs to clarify…..which would be very simple. Take a 992.2GTS and put the energy screen on the PCM so we can see energy depletion and production. Then take an amateur driver and run the car hard on the Ring (or a similar track) for 30 minutes recording the energy screen. It is what it is. Show me! Arguments done.
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Well, it’s brake, not break, but I do drive WOT all the time on track. As my first instructor said, there is no coasting on the track . You’re just mashing different pedals at different times. So, the Porsche engineer’s unfortunate comment unintentionally started this controversy so Porsche needs to clarify…..which would be very simple. Take a 992.2GTS and put the energy screen on the PCM so we can see energy depletion and production. Then take an amateur driver and run the car hard on the Ring (or a similar track) for 30 minutes recording the energy screen. It is what it is. Show me! Arguments done.
Some of the excuses are valid . cant get the materials , manufacturing concerns , transport issues (IE sinking boat) , and others car manufacturers making cheaper cars that are trying to compete in a high interest economy .
Porsche has to keep the fantasy alive . Thats marketing . Convince everyone that your product is so bright and shiny that one wil give anything to have it .
Enter the GTS . They picked what most called "the sweet spot" of the first gen to package it early and sell the wolrld at its premiere that it is perfect . They almost had me too.Yet if Im am about to spend this much I wanted to know as much as possible and be wiling to accept disappointment .
I think that a tough pill to swallow for a few on the thread . Denial is not just a river in Egypt .
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#89
Hmmm! That would be quite the spectacle. Car meets shed a lot of light on the members much of the time. Some of the most antagonistic people online end up being real dweebs in person; reticent when they can actually be held accountable on the spot. Very rarely does the man match the mouth, but I would love to see this play out.
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#90
Hmmm! That would be quite the spectacle. Car meets shed a lot of light on the members much of the time. Some of the most antagonistic people online end up being real dweebs in person; reticent when they can actually be held accountable on the spot. Very rarely does the man match the mouth, but I would love to see this play out.
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