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I just watched this video which explains a lot about the engine , Of course he gives a lot of praise but it comes with a caveat : maintenance.
This is not a simple engine and it's the first one . I am not a technician and I guess thats why I got a bit nervous . Maybe some can chime in on what they expect , My former 991.2 and 992.1 were bulletproof with reliability and upkeep. This sounds different ,
I just watched this video which explains a lot about the engine , Of course he gives a lot of praise but it comes with a caveat : maintenance.
This is not a simple engine and it's the first one . I am not a technician and I guess thats why I got a bit nervous . Maybe some can chime in on what they expect , My former 991.2 and 992.1 were bulletproof with reliability and upkeep. This sounds different
What are you driving now since you no longer have the 992.1?
What I am driving is not relevant and off topic . Extended warranty is a given and I am not doing it or never have . I am hoping someone has done the research as to whether the battery needs replacing and if so what is entailed . I am also curious as to what is expected upkeep . I am number 1 at my dealership to get it and can easily switch to a base , Turbo or Turbo S which are all known reliable . I can wait for the S . Buying this car is not just about performance data shared in the premiere . I want to know what most anticipate as both positive or negative about this type of engine .
What I am driving is not relevant and off topic . Extended warranty is a given and I am not doing it or never have . I am hoping someone has done the research as to whether the battery needs replacing and if so what is entailed . I am also curious as too what is expected upkeep . I am number 1 at my dealership to het it and can easily switch to a base , Turbo or Turbo S which are all known reliable . I can wait for the S . Buying this car is not just about performance data shared in the premiere . I want to know what most anticipate as both positive or negative about this type of engine .
You’re asking for 100% speculation about a car nobody owns and/or has any real world experience with. Nobody is going to be able to answer those questions for you TODAY with any degree of reliability.
You’re asking for 100% speculation about a car nobody owns and/or has any real world experience with. Nobody is going to be able to answer those questions for you TODAY with any degree of reliability.
Even if no one owned a 992.1 most would know that tires, brakes , and battery are routine parts . This car has a hybrid battery and with EV there is a point where a full replacement is recommended . Porsche didnt say any of these things .. yet .
You have written. two posts and rather than. answer the question. or simply ignore it you opt to disrupt . I'll ignore you .
It is substantially different from the 991.2 and 992.1. A hybrid powertrain with an electric boosted turbo is about as complicated as it gets.
Sharkwerks shared this 992.2 cutaway. It doesn’t look like a car that you want to deal with outside of the factory warranty. Their caption says it all.
It is substantially different from the 991.2 and 992.1. A hybrid powertrain with an electric boosted turbo is about as complicated as it gets.
Sharkwerks shared this 992.2 cutaway. It doesn’t look like a car that you want to deal with outside of the factory warranty. Their caption says it all.
Thank you . I was thinking along those lines that book hours can be a longer term concern . I respect Sharkwerks and even remember Alex posting detailed upgrades in the 997 Turbo hemisphere , He also identified things that could go wrong before most had it happen and it looks like he's ahead of the curve . It might be worth not being number 1 on the line and waiting . I do have other cars to drive , I hate to turn down the opportunity though if there is some reassurance .
Thank you . I was thinking along those lines that book hours can be a longer term concern . I respect Sharkwerks and even remember Alex posting detailed upgrades in the 997 Turbo hemisphere , He also identified things that could go wrong before most had it happen and it looks like he's ahead of the curve . It might be worth not being number 1 on the line and waiting . I do have other cars to drive , I hate to turn down the opportunity though if there is some reassurance .
I share your thoughts and while difficult I have cancelled the GTS for delivery August/Sept since I dont mind waiting a bit more to see the other offerings.
As above reliability is unknown but then again they have had huge experience from racing on this. Additionally the hybrid cayennes and - although completely different hybrid design, architecture & engineering for sure - have been extremely reliable.
Does the Turbo interest you? It seems it is not a hybrid, there is a manual option, not sure about PDK but it is RWD.
Final point: if you live in a market where resale is extremely easy i.e US then you might get the car, drive it for a year and sell it for almost 0 loss. In Euro depreciation is more but we do not have ADM in general.
In any case the GTS will be a superb car drive wise for most people. (First preliminary review/opinion by car magazine is quite good - not that we should trust the press in any way but it is still a reference point)
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I share your thoughts and while difficult I have cancelled the GTS for delivery August/Sept since I dont mind waiting a bit more to see the other offerings.
As above reliability is unknown but then again they have had huge experience from racing on this. Additionally the hybrid cayennes and - although completely different hybrid design, architecture & engineering for sure - have been extremely reliable.
Does the Turbo interest you? It seems it is not a hybrid, there is a manual option, not sure about PDK but it is RWD.
Final point: if you live in a market where resale is extremely easy i.e US then you might get the car, drive it for a year and sell it for almost 0 loss. In Euro depreciation is less but we do not have ADM in general.
In any case the GTS will be a superb car drive wise for most people. (First preliminary review/opinion by car magazine is quite good - not that we should trust the press in any way but it is still a reference point)
The Turbo is not revised on our configurator . Is it the .2 on yours ?
The Turbo is not revised on our configurator . Is it the .2 on yours ?
No you have to wait unfortunately. Will be released beginning of next year and deliveries spring 2025 - +/- a few months of course. Other than the GT3 it seems it is the only non eturbo 911 for the next 12 months. There is info in this discussion:
The base is going to be a hot seller, that's all I will say.
Agreed completely. Let's wait for the S also but if it is uses the detuned 3.6L eturbo of the GTS (for 510bhp) i do not really understand why they delayed the launch.
We will know if there will be a lot of problems with these after 1 to 1.5 years of them being out in the wild. I think it is really dependent on the specific model. For example BMW rolled out the X5 45e PHEV for MY 2020 and for the most part it didn't have too many problems (other than some parts not being available due to COVID / supply chain). However, the X5 50e PHEV was released for MY 2024 and it has had quite a few problems, despite being mostly just a mid-cycle refresh of the 45e.
I agree that I think the 992.2 base Carrera will be a hot seller. I think it is actually a really great deal, since it has the turbos from the 992.1 GTS, intercooler from the 992.1 Turbo, and larger brakes. With a tune (M-Engineering Stage 1, etc) I am sure it will be pretty much on par with a similarly tuned 992.1 Carrera S. If you got the 992.2 base Carrera 4 (assuming Porsche releases it in the future), you would even have the LSD too.
06-08-2024, 07:24 PM
Maintenance projections on the 992.2 GTS
