M-engineering tuning offered at the Porsche Dealership
03-08-2024 | 05:45 PM
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. Why would the dealer ever agree to cover warranty at their own cost? Considering you can install the tune yourself so easily, they can't be getting paid much for the 10 minutes of time it takes and it would make zero sense for them to guarantee a warranty for such small margin selling an M-Engineering tune.As others have said, the risk is likely very low regardless and this is somewhat of an academic discussion but the OP asked a question and the answer is pretty clear to most people... and, yes, check with the dealer to see if they will cover the engine out of their own pocket in case Porsche won't
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03-09-2024 | 10:21 AM
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Hypothetically speaking, if an owner has a tune on their car and something catastrophic happens, would you be able to revert back to the factory tune? I always wondered this because if you did have a major issue, your car may not even allow you to revert back to the factory tune.
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03-09-2024 | 02:24 PM
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Hypothetically speaking, if an owner has a tune on their car and something catastrophic happens, would you be able to revert back to the factory tune? I always wondered this because if you did have a major issue, your car may not even allow you to revert back to the factory tune.
03-09-2024 | 06:01 PM
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Like my old 2001 Dodge Cummins Turbo Diesel forum days where you stuck an "Edge" piggyback chip on there and the mantra was 'YOU ARE YOUR OWN WARRANTY STATION' when you modify your vehicle.
That is pretty cool though that the P dealer is offering up M-Engineering's products.
That is pretty cool though that the P dealer is offering up M-Engineering's products.
03-10-2024 | 01:18 AM
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03-10-2024 | 04:22 AM
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A well respected service manager in SF recently told me that Porsche doesn't use the same system as Audi and VW to check for a flash everytime a computer is plugged in. If flashed back to stock, a dealer can't even tell it was flashed, however, complete ecu and engine data is shared with Porsche in DE and they can tell by looking deep enough (doesn't happen often, but it does).
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03-10-2024 | 09:17 AM
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A well respected service manager in SF recently told me that Porsche doesn't use the same system as Audi and VW to check for a flash everytime a computer is plugged in. If flashed back to stock, a dealer can't even tell it was flashed, however, complete ecu and engine data is shared with Porsche in DE and they can tell by looking deep enough (doesn't happen often, but it does).
03-10-2024 | 10:07 AM
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You are never really alone in the 911. Big Brother is watching. You might be surprised at the amount of data available to the tech; error codes, over-rev, date, time & even speed depending upon the error, etc.
06-15-2024 | 06:06 PM
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This thread has gotten a bit out of hand especially with our company name in the title of it so I wanted to chime one final time.
If maintaining your car's warranty is a top concern of yours, tuning probably isn't for you. That being said, our product makes it very easy to return to stock, literally 5 minutes, and is a byte for byte stock file with a verified CVN, verified CALID, and no raised flash counter. I have not seen or heard of a single 992 engine failure (Carrera or Turbo) using our product. I also have not heard of a warranty being voided after going to the dealer after returning to stock with our product.
These cars are so overbuilt from the factory it's unreal. Porsche has made a great canvas for customization and that is the amazing thing about the 911. We are all so very fortunate to be able to drive these cars. If you enjoy adding more power to your daily driver, adding fun modifications, or pushing your car to new limits, the product we have created for this community is very enjoyable. Our future pipeline also has some unique custom code we've written that adds more engine safeties beyond what the factory has to offer, and we can't wait to share these with you.
At the end of the day, it's up to the end-user to do their own risk analysis when choosing to mod their vehicle in any capacity.
We are here to answer any additional questions anyone may have! 949.444.2150 or info@m-engineering.us
-Charles@M
If maintaining your car's warranty is a top concern of yours, tuning probably isn't for you. That being said, our product makes it very easy to return to stock, literally 5 minutes, and is a byte for byte stock file with a verified CVN, verified CALID, and no raised flash counter. I have not seen or heard of a single 992 engine failure (Carrera or Turbo) using our product. I also have not heard of a warranty being voided after going to the dealer after returning to stock with our product.
These cars are so overbuilt from the factory it's unreal. Porsche has made a great canvas for customization and that is the amazing thing about the 911. We are all so very fortunate to be able to drive these cars. If you enjoy adding more power to your daily driver, adding fun modifications, or pushing your car to new limits, the product we have created for this community is very enjoyable. Our future pipeline also has some unique custom code we've written that adds more engine safeties beyond what the factory has to offer, and we can't wait to share these with you.
At the end of the day, it's up to the end-user to do their own risk analysis when choosing to mod their vehicle in any capacity.
We are here to answer any additional questions anyone may have! 949.444.2150 or info@m-engineering.us
-Charles@M
Yesterday | 09:29 PM
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Personal preference based on risk tolerance, but I’m planning to tune mine for the following reasons:
- Don’t really NEED the extra power but I certainly let didn’t need the first 650 horse either.
- Ability to remove the tune before stealership gives me comfort
- Fact that warranties don’t last forever
- If the absolute worst case scenario with low probability is a blown engine replacement for $70k, it’s not the end of the world
I might die tomorrow and would hate for that to happen before experiencing 800 hp.
- Don’t really NEED the extra power but I certainly let didn’t need the first 650 horse either.
- Ability to remove the tune before stealership gives me comfort
- Fact that warranties don’t last forever
- If the absolute worst case scenario with low probability is a blown engine replacement for $70k, it’s not the end of the world
I might die tomorrow and would hate for that to happen before experiencing 800 hp.
Yesterday | 10:19 PM
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From prior experience, I believe you have a point. With my car, the dealer could not even get error codes, the car was not communicating with PIWIS. Of course, I'm not saying it's the case with this product, which was not even available at the time. Diagnostic was through borescope.
Yesterday | 10:24 PM
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Like Charles said, if you are worried about a warranty, don’t tune it, otherwise have a ball.
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