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Old 01-28-2024 | 12:19 PM
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The Game changer for me is the Suspension set-up for the GTS. It really locks the car down and is quite noticeable. It is far from harsh and it reminds of my 991.2 GT3.

I think if one wants a Cabrio that drives/handles like a coupe with (0) body roll the GTS is the route to go. It was precisely the reason I went with the GTS Cabrio plus it tends to hold Value(GTS) better in the long run
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Originally Posted by alexb76
Thanks, so is the S/GTS turbos the same or different? Others think it's the same?!
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Same turbos. GTS has more boost.
^^^^^^^^^^^

What he said. Only difference between the S and GTS motor is software.(AFAIK)
Old 01-28-2024 | 12:27 PM
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Originally Posted by Mike818
^^^^^^^^^^^

What he said. Only difference between the S and GTS motor is software.(AFAIK)
And I do not believe you can feel the difference in power. I think the removal of some of the sound deadening in the GTS makes you think it feels faster because the exhaust is more pronounced
Old 01-28-2024 | 12:33 PM
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Originally Posted by Jimmy-D
The Game changer for me is the Suspension set-up for the GTS. It really locks the car down and is quite noticeable. It is far from harsh and it reminds of my 991.2 GT3.

I think if one wants a Cabrio that drives/handles like a coupe with (0) body roll the GTS is the route to go. It was precisely the reason I went with the GTS Cabrio plus it tends to hold Value(GTS) better in the long run
I agree with your comments on the GTS suspension set up. I prefer the feel of the higher spring rates on the GTS. Ignoring the power differences between the models, the fact the GTS has the firmest suspension set up, the helper springs and most capable brakes are things I really like about the car. Moving from the GTS to an S is noticeable to me in terms of suspension feel... different people prefer different set ups but I'm very happy with the GTS.
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T is best. Dont waste money on anything more than that unless getting GT3/Turbo S.
I scraped the “G” and the “S” off of my car so people think I have a T.
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Old 01-28-2024 | 01:41 PM
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Originally Posted by someforumguy
T is best. Dont waste money on anything more than that unless getting GT3/Turbo S.
Until you send/post the pictures that you promised, you're still a troll that doesn't actually own a 911.

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Old 01-28-2024 | 01:51 PM
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I was thinking about it, and there is so much similarity between the trims that I wonder if Porsche has a "binning" process when it comes to which cars get what?

What I mean / For example:

Parts are evaluated for quality and assigned A/B/C grade:

GTS only gets "A grade" parts
S gets "A/B grade" parts
Base / T gets "A/B/C grade" parts

Does anyone know if this type of thing is done at any level of production?
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Old 01-28-2024 | 01:54 PM
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No chance.
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Originally Posted by Mike818
I was thinking about it, and there is so much similarity between the trims that I wonder if Porsche has a "binning" process when it comes to which cars get what?

What I mean / For example:

Parts are evaluated for quality and assigned A/B/C grade:

GTS only gets "A grade" parts
S gets "A/B grade" parts
Base / T gets "A/B/C grade" parts

Does anyone know if this type of thing is done at any level of production?
It's not done that way. Not how it works at all.
Old 01-28-2024 | 02:50 PM
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Originally Posted by Mike818
I was thinking about it, and there is so much similarity between the trims that I wonder if Porsche has a "binning" process when it comes to which cars get what?

What I mean / For example:

Parts are evaluated for quality and assigned A/B/C grade:

GTS only gets "A grade" parts
S gets "A/B grade" parts
Base / T gets "A/B/C grade" parts

Does anyone know if this type of thing is done at any level of production?
A hypothetical guess, probably 95-98% of the 992 Carrera parts are all the same across all trims.
Old 01-28-2024 | 03:28 PM
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Originally Posted by 3uros
A hypothetical guess, probably 95-98% of the 992 Carrera parts are all the same across all trims.
There is just too much possible customization across the Carrera lineup that this figure seems improbable.
Old 01-28-2024 | 03:38 PM
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Originally Posted by Mike818
I was thinking about it, and there is so much similarity between the trims that I wonder if Porsche has a "binning" process when it comes to which cars get what?

What I mean / For example:

Parts are evaluated for quality and assigned A/B/C grade:

GTS only gets "A grade" parts
S gets "A/B grade" parts
Base / T gets "A/B/C grade" parts

Does anyone know if this type of thing is done at any level of production?
In a world where everything is a process to be improved, this would be the least efficient way to do anything.
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Old 01-28-2024 | 03:47 PM
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While my experience is only with the S and GTS test drives, the differences were quite minor on the road in perceived performance. The most notable was the suspension, with the S handling the city street bumps more comfortably than the GTS (2 cars driven, with and without PDDC). I attribute part of that to tire pressures through, with GTS very high (45+ rear), and I don't think the salesman would have appreciated me lowering them! The GTS did sound better given the removal of additional insulation.

After that it all comes down to customization. I settled on a GTS order, although probably overdid the options driving quite the build delay (I'd go simpler next time).
Old 01-28-2024 | 04:08 PM
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Originally Posted by CanAutM3
There is just too much possible customization across the Carrera lineup that this figure seems improbable.
Most of the customer specific customization is cosmetic...choices in leather colors, stitching, exterior lights etc. wouldn't really make a big difference in the number of parts. Of the tens of thousands of parts an ICE vehicle has, vast majority are from the mechanical bits (i.e. chassis and powertrain). Those parts amongst the Carrera line-up are mostly the same with subtle differences in turbos, suspension tuning, etc. I'm referring to just the Carrera models and not including the Turbo or GT models as those models obviously have far more differences mechanical wise.
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Originally Posted by detansinn
It's not done that way. Not how it works at all.
Care to share some insider info on how it does work? Is every part on a "pass or fail" type of QC for all cars, or does some kind of parts sorting between trims happen at all?

Originally Posted by 3uros
A hypothetical guess, probably 95-98% of the 992 Carrera parts are all the same across all trims.
It's a lot that's for sure. Molds wear, tools dull, etc so It seems reasonable to wonder if the best stuff gets put aside for the highest trims/specs.

Originally Posted by suffer
In a world where everything is a process to be improved, this would be the least efficient way to do anything.
This is pretty much how it's done in the semi conductor world.


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