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The engine of a vehicle is honestly the least important aspect of to me. It's the last thing I care about when shopping for a car. Virtually every sports car sold today has far too much power. The more powerful they become, the less fun they are. To me, pushing the limits is where the fun begins so as cars get more power the limits increase and it becomes harder and harder to reach the limits. If I ignore range and access to fuel, then the power source is irrelevant to me.
A car that feels like a mechanical connection to my body and brain is what makes me smile. The recipe for my perfect sports car is a great manual transmissions, tactile steering, great balance at the limits, logically placed controls, a cockpit that I wear rather than sit on, and a beautiful body. The power source is entirely irrelevant if those ingredients exist. (But obviously a real manual can't exist in an EV).
Well then the battery pack has to be larger and the onboard charger does also, and that adds even more weight, and sports car buyers don't want that. If your SUV adds 300 pounds of weight, you may not care if the EV only range is important to you, but on a 911 - who needs that?
Batteries and EV tech are constantly improving.
The engineers need a good challenge. Give me 60 miles of EV only range, 0-60mph in < 5 seconds in EV only mode, melt my face off in combined. Keep the whole thing under 3200lbs.
There is no reason for a plug-in 911 - no wants wants a EV only range in a sports car.
Me personally I want one or the other technology. i don't want hybrid. Not saying the 911 should be EV thought. It has been an iconic and dream goal for countless people. As such it should always have ICE available. Make other models and such to keep the balance so that they can remain. That way we can keep a new/current 911 in our garage and a EV/SUV depending on our needs/desire.
The engine of a vehicle is honestly the least important aspect of to me. It's the last thing I care about when shopping for a car. Virtually every sports car sold today has far too much power. The more powerful they become, the less fun they are. To me, pushing the limits is where the fun begins so as cars get more power the limits increase and it becomes harder and harder to reach the limits. If I ignore range and access to fuel, then the power source is irrelevant to me.
A car that feels like a mechanical connection to my body and brain is what makes me smile. The recipe for my perfect sports car is a great manual transmissions, tactile steering, great balance at the limits, logically placed controls, a cockpit that I wear rather than sit on, and a beautiful body. The power source is entirely irrelevant if those ingredients exist. (But obviously a real manual can't exist in an EV).
There is so much nonsense about chasing seemingly never ending power numbers and 0-60 times. Even within this sub, there are those who believe the smaller turbos are not enough. Makes me chuckle. There is such a thing as too much power for a road car and it seems to be right around 500 hp. I don't know many people who can control a 400 hp car without nannies, never mind 500 hp. As you said, what matters is feel. A car that feels like an extension of your body and the road. This is why aircooled car values are going through the roof. Modern cars just can't quite achieve the same level of tactility, though my stripper T and the GT cars are probably as good as it gets.
I currently have a 17 Acura NSX and at first I was intrigued by the Hybrid assist (3 motors) and truly on roads like Tail of the Dragon you can really feel the torque vectoring. However, as good as that is to maintain speed etc. it isn't a manual transmission car and its gets boring fast. Can I destroy a number of current 500hp cars on a regular basis...sure but the car lacks a soul. I'm very excited to receive my next Carrera T as I had a 19 T and miss that tactile feeling and connectedness.
I was at the dealer the other day. They had a 918 they were tearing apart for an oil leak.
I have pretty good mechanical aptitude, but this looks way above my pay grade.
hybrids are not that simple check out the wiring.
If you look at the sheer number of hybrids on the road today, with several offerings from nearly every manufacturer, you'd reasonably conclude that hybrids are actually not all that complex.
Oil leak in the 918 would be for the ICE in that car, has nothing to do with the hybrid subsystem.
If you look at the sheer number of hybrids on the road today, with several offerings from nearly every manufacturer, you'd reasonably conclude that hybrids are actually not all that complex.
Oil leak in the 918 would be for the ICE in that car, has nothing to do with the hybrid subsystem.
that’s correct my point was showing the complexity of the systems
Just a comment on hybrids. Audi is going to stop making convertibles after this year because they are going electric and the top going back takes up two much room for the batteries to fit. I wonder if the 911 will have a issue
12-23-2023, 08:03 PM
