johnohara

I bought a first year 550 BMW with N63 TT V8 and a few years later all hell broke loose. The new 992..2 motor will probably show up in the 994.1 as well. I would wait unit any bugs shake out as this is a pretty drastic change.

I love my 992.1 M7 GTS and know the drivetrain is solid. After that N63 I will never buy a first gen drivetrain again.

kayjh

I guess it depends on what you are looking for. I test drove a 991.1 in 2017 and found it too loud inside and bought a 991.2 (C4) but in the end found the PSE the dealer talked me into droned too much. That along with the tire roar made me sell the car. Recently I spent some time driving a 992.1 with PSE. That car was much quieter than my 991.2 with exhaust retuned to have less drone. Slightly less tire roar too.

I’m waiting to see what the 992.2 brings in everyday livability. I don’t really care whether the engine is the same or NA. But, I’m probably in the minority here. If I was betting, I’d say there is no way the .2 will drop the current turbo design for NA. Why? In one word - China. That country drives what Porsche produces, not the USA. I think China is the reason the base 911 has a 3L turbo in the first place.

detansinn

The 991.2 cars are substantially quicker than the 991.1 cars. Porsche also made marked improvements to the EPAS in the 991.2. With those improvements and other changes, a 991.2 is dynamically a better car than the 991.1 -- it's better sorted AND more powerful. Add in creature comforts like CarPlay and details like a modern steering wheel that Porsche still uses today, the used 991.2 cars deserve their premium over the 991.1.

Not every Porsche NA engine is a gem like the GT3. Honestly, for me, the obsession with NA cars is simply bizarre. For driving on the street, turbos all day, any day, because you get more grunt off the line and power where you can actually use it. If NA, sky high revs, and a manual transmission are your priorities -- and you can't afford a GT3 -- that's what motorcycles are for. Yeah, if you want to go fast and have a truly visceral experience, two wheels is the answer.

...but I digress.

Hybridization will make the 992.2 Carrera the fastest Carrera that Porsche ever made. It will be STOUT with that electric power eliminating any turbo lag from the driving experience. It will still make the noises, but when you need to, you'll be able to pull out silently out of the driveway/neighborhood for that Sunday drive. It's going to be awesome and all of these "sky is falling" posts will look quaint when the car actually lands.

TUD

Agreed. The Chinese market vastly determines what the Germans at Porsche, BMW, and Mercedes-Benz do.

An individual whom recently did Zuffenhausen delivery and toured the factory was advised during the tour that the U.S. has surpassed China in sales.

“Fun fact up until around 2015 the US was the biggest share of Porsche vehicles when China took over.” “The US has taken back the crown as of 2023 (I forget which quarter tipped the balance). China number 2 and Germany number 3.”

malba2366

Turbos are not only necessary because of China, they are also needed to meet C02 standards and fuel economy standards in other markets. This is why almost every automaker is moving to downsized turbocharged engines globally.

TUD

Yes, CAFE standards play a large part within the US and EU.

Risky_Business

Very well said. I love all versions in their own unique ways and really anticipating my 992.2 as the time passes.

Risky_Business

Looks like something went awry as I was offered a 992.1 S allocation unsolicited. I've been clear from the start I am targeting a .2 so I passed. Interesting experience to wake up to though.

gymdent

ProtechpartsEU

saw a 911 dakar offroad version that had similar front.

dchang81

it's a tale as old as time.

Johnauto

Good video. Do people agree with him that a 992.2 Carrera S base price will be $170K? That's about a $40K increase compared to today.

VarTheVar

That was an awful video, and no chance

nyca

If that's the new base price, I'm out.

rasetsu

Anyone can make a video espousing whatever theories they want and post it up on YouTube. My personal opinion is that I do not agree at all that the starting base price of a .2 will be $170K. Sure, it's fun to speculate until Porsche makes their official announcements but until then, the opinions and theories posted on YouTube are not any more valid than the opinions of people sitting around a bar chit chatting. People like that post up videos with comments like those to get click engagement views.